here with me, anthea butler, professor of religious studies, joe watkins, pastor of christ evangelicaln philadelphia, serene jones, president of union theological seminary and chris jenkins, the author of "how an atheist found common ground with the religious." you know, i want to go to reverend joe watkins first because i think this is the question that most commonly gets asked by people of faith after a tragedy like this. where was god? how do you answer that when your parishioners come to you and ask where was god. >> god lets the rain fall on everybody, on good people and people who aren't so good, and he loves us all. sometimes it may feel like we -- it may be hard for us to feel his love but i liken it to when i go up in an airplane, on a rainy day when you fly off somewhere and the clouds are looming, and it's raining, as soon as you get above those clouds, the sun is doing what it does every single day which is shining, and i know that god is there always, and god loves us all. he doesn't love everything that we do. he doesn't sign off on every behavior that we have. but he lov