i goo new york, w, joe califano. joe, y have been involved in this issue for a long, long time. you listen to the president tonight, you've just listened to reactionrom threeembers of congress. how do you s it? >> well, i me, as far as the president tonight, mean, i thinhe made a ver eloquent spee. i thinhe rubber ll hit the road when th go to confence with t house and the sete. but i think th reality... all thisonversation about controlling costs is only one way to control costs an that's to keep peoe out of t sick care system. the onlyhings in templ of sick care that wl help control costs are if we have a sittion which we deal with some of the thin thatcreate them: the fee forervice system for doctors. the way hospitals a reimbursed essentially on aost-plus basis. e failure to have any health omotion and disease prevtion. you know, whydon't the mocrats tax alcohol? why don't they taxobacco? substance abuse, charlie, alcohol an tobacc account. and the diseases they spawn count for 30% of the heah careosts in this country. 35% of medicars cost. i think tt i wish t president talk

i go to new york, now, joe califano. joe, you have been involved in this issue for a long, long time. you listened to the president tonight, you've just listened to reaction from three members of congress. how do you see it? >> well, i mean, as far as the president tonight, i mean, i think he made a very eloquent speech. i think the rubber will hit the road when they go to conference with the house and the senate. but i think the reality... all this conversation about controlling costs is only one way to control costs and that's to keep people out of the sick care system. the only things in temples of sick care that will help control costs are if we have a situation in which we deal with some of the things that create them: the fee for service system for doctors. the way hospitals are reimbursed essentially on a cost-plus basis. the failure to have any health promotion and disease prevention. you know, why don't the democrats tax alcohol? why don't they tax tobacco? substance abuse, charlie, alcohol and tobacco account..

i goo new york, w, joe califano. joe, y have been involved in this issue for a long, long time. you listen to the president tonight, you've just listened to reactionrom threeembers of congress. how do you s it? >> well, i me, as far as the president tonight, mean, i thinhe made a ver eloquent spee. i thinhe rubber ll hit the road when th go to confence with t house and the sete. but i think th reality... all thisonversation about controlling costs is only one way to control costs an that's to keep peoe out of t sick care system. the onlyhings in templ of sick care that wl help control costs are if we have a sittion which we deal with some of the thin thatcreate them: the fee forervice system for doctors. the way hospitals a reimbursed essentially on aost-plus basis. e failure to have any health omotion and disease prevtion. you know, whydon't the mocrats tax alcohol? why don't they taxobacco? substance abuse, charlie, alcohol an tobacco account. and the diseases they spawn count for 30% of the heah careosts in this country. 35% of medicars cost. i think tt i wish t president tal