joining us now, matt schlapp and joe concha.is from a media reporter standpoint that is not part of the cabal of media reporters that it retweeted each other all day anf live in their bubble? >> the argument in the situations, whenever a news organization says they have to edit down because of time concentrates that's fine but ite can analog excuse in a digital world. there are no time constraints on the internet. so when you put the interview on there, it shows full transparency and it will shut you up and everybody can see what a compelling interview. >> sean: i want to say it like that. i want to shut you up. >> you're making cbs news go to "the new york times" and say we are not going to put it out. why not do that? ted koppel and you combined have eight decades of experience in news. it's probably a pretty compelling conversation. >> sean: it was a great give and take. i like ted koppel on "nightline." i think it was a cheap shot. 70 seconds, i think it was well over 50 minutes total. that's a cheap shot. >> what you could'

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contributor news mercedes schlapp and from the hill joe concha is with us, media reporter.ential, than the villain of all time. what is going on at these networks in your opinion? >> how does van jones even have a national platform?oi he used to be a pundit and that's fine. now he's actually a host of the specials in primetime on cnn. let's remember who van jones was. in the obama administration, only there for a couple of months and had to resign because he called republicans a-holes and it was discovered that he signed a 9/11 truth-er petition. now in the media we give guys like van jones these huge platforms to express their views >> sean: do you have any doubts that cnn and nbc and most of these networks "new york times" have made a decision they're going all in and if it means telling lies about russia, you heard of johnn solomon earlier tonight on this program. sara carter earlier on this program. there was a fisa warrant and another warrant, no evidence to back up all the lies we've been hearing on tv for months. >> follow the money, "the new york times" and "washing

joining me now, joe concha. i don't think it president has ever laughed in an interview like this. >> he will grin, but i have never seen him laugh before. that's a first. jesse: swa stood out to you for the interview? >> the economic part you talked about. it reflects towards the negative. what got him elected is wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio. it was an economic message. when he talks about a tax cut bigger than reagan. 15%. jesse: we have that sound bite, roll that. >> it will be the biggest tax cut since reagan, probably bigger than reagan. jesse: that's massive. the top rate is 39%. so going down from 39% to 15%. wow! i don't know if people are going to get on board. republicans? 15% rate. >> i think donald trump is a negotiator. he starts sat one points to end up with another. that's the starting point. even if you get close to that, as big as reagan or bigger. also interesting jumping off of what you just said, he pivots to economics' he scusds the obamacare repeal deal, but quickly moved to the

. >> tucker: we are joined now by joe concha, who writes for the hill. great to see you. we open the show tonight with a story that i think is significant. it has come to our attention. it's true that nbc -- the people who run it, knew that the famous access hollywood tape was being leaked to the hollywood post. it was done intentionally because they wanted to distance themselves from it. they wanted to hurt trump before the presidential debate two days later. does that, as a shock to you? >> we do not know definitivelyy that they had knowledge of that. i understand it is within our bubble but we do not have a definitive report. >> tucker: i cane say that definitively. >> look, i would think that given that that tape -- access hollywood, bombshell revelation would not only change the presidential election but think of trump, clinton, the different agendas, supreme court justice. it is huge. i get it is 11 years later and you have to connect a lot of dots but you at least try to do an internal investigation to figure out where that tape went becauseve i am sure that more t