joe concha back with us. you've been saying for years that this is all part of the pattern and there's been many years that have been far worse in terms of weather changes and it's all part of a pattern. was that track correct that the president was looking at a time that it was going to go across florida, was that accurate? >> the computer models of the time, if you look at the spray, it's over 600 miles in the gulf of mexico and if you look closely there's a deep black lined that the computer model had and that's the mean of the models together. >> sean: it's very early, right? let me ask you. >> it's very early. the problem was my have to say you make the statement sunday. by friday, people are taking it east of florida and the model shift. that's what caused confusion. i never judge anyone by their weakest day. >> sean: we are running out of time. let me ask, they did predict a new ice age. they predicted we are going to melt away. they were wrong. are there wrong now? >> my goodness, yap. as a matter of

joe concha writes for the hill newspaper. hen forcing his kids to do the same, i mean, is there any politician in the world who could get away with that in the way that justin trudeau did? >> no politician, not even me. i have a 5 and 4-year-old i'm pretty sure i would never do that i'm trying to picture a world, tucker, where the president of this country is -- they unearth some photos from 15, 20 years ago of him in blackface and then another and then another and then i wonder well, would the press be as forgiving with him as they are with trudeau. it's rhetorical friday so you don't have to answer that but, in terms of the press coverage, tucker, cnn, here's one headline from just tonight. justin trudeau hugged supporters and takes selfie in canada's most ethnically diverse city amid blackface scandal bbc justin trudeau candidate pm seeks to put blackface scandal behind him. it seems that the media is trying to put it behind him as well. what's missing here while there is coverage, i don't see the is that correct, and i don

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joe concha writes about the media for the hill he joins to us react to that plus thehe performance ofjoins us now.o joe, what's your reaction to that.er i was shocked at the point of view we are getting from the guy asking questions. >> i wasn't so much shocked because we have known, brian kilmeade, that this is jorge ramos. this is who he is. he is not a journalist. he is an activist. is he a partisan. here's what he had to say in 2016 before the presidential a election. he said donald trump is thee most divisive, polarizing, and disrupting figure in american politics in decades and neutrality is not an option for journalists when covering him. so if you are abc news and you see and hear the things that jorge ramos has said in the past and then you say you know what? let's make him a moderator just like msnbc put rachelt maddow in the moderator seat. just like cnn put don lemon in the moderator seat. this is why the american public isn't learning too much from these debates because they are being asked questions that are really speeches being given by activists and partisansed and we

we will have the opening tmonologue coming up.we have tr the hill, joe concha is with us. joe, what's amazing about this is, number one, we had to wait-2 years to get to the truth that we were being peddles a lie. the biggest story of abuse of power and corruption was missed. but in this case, somebody's life is in jeopardy here with absolutely no fact-checking on their side at all. i mean, they have to have the cia do this, to have theseve gus pull up to try to save his lifes thanks to msnbc conspiracy is here to re, msdnc, and fake news cnn, telling a fake story. when do they ever get held accountable, if ever? >> joe: as you said, sean, there are possible deadly ramifications that could be at stake here. as catherine mentioned and you tmentioned, for the cia to come out and make a public statementy report, calling it misguided because the story was that egregious, i've never seen thatg out. overall, you've got to look at the big picture here.they've lie officials during the trump administration alone. their last hire was andrew mccabe who only lied about leaking to the p

media reporter for "the hill," joe concha. joe, on the media side of this, they don't want the truth. this is now -- they've gotten away with three years of lying and letting it go, moving onto the next group of lies. so why would they change? >> yeah, i'm surprised after two and a half years of the mueller investigation and russia collusion and everything that went into that reporting, which was just, when you look back at it, reckless speculation, using flimsy sources, one source, nefarious sources that were surprised but what we are seeing here from "the new york times." the question now, sean, why hasn't anyone of importance at "the new york times" made any verbal statements over one of the biggest editorial debacles this publication has seen, perhaps since the jayson blair fiasco? because the "times" always preaches about speaking truth to power, speaks about transparency from the leaders and the people of cover. they need to be transparent here in terms of how this story got to print in the first place, and right now, the

joe concha is with us. what's amazing about this. number one, we had to wait two and a half years to get to the truth. the biggest story of abuse of power and corruption was missed. but in this case, somebody's life is in jeopardy here. with absolutely no fact-checking on their side at all. i mean, they have to have the cia do this, to have this thess pull up to try to save his life. fake news cnn, telling a fake story. when do they ever get held accountable, if ever? >> joe: as you said, sean, there are possible deadly ramifications that could be at stake here. as catherine mentioned and you mentioned, for the cia to come out and make a public statement calling it "misguided." because the story was that egregious, i've never seen that before. overall, you've got to look at the big picture here. the sea i their last tire was andrew mccabe who lied three times under oath. that was the reason he was fired. and now, he is hired by a news organization who he may have leaked to? and now there's other cia officials working for the network

joe concha writes about media for the hill, he joins us tonight. hing changed in the past couple of weeks? is off the record no longer a category that journalists have to observe? >> as you mentioned, tucker that is a commandment that should never be broken. it's like vegas, what happens in vegas stays in vegas. when you have an off-the-record conversation with a reporter, it is understood as long as the parties establish beforehand that this is an off-the-record conversation that is not going to be mentioned, it's not going to be published, it's not going to be talked about in any capacity. it's like seeing your psychiatrist or a priest during confession. it's not supposed to get out. and in this case, there was also some other reporters there as well. reporters from bloomberg and reuters and the "wall street journal" and then phil rutger who you mentioned from "the washington post. it can't be confirmed, however, that rutger actually burned this source here in madeline westerhaut that's what a lot of sources are reporting now. i can't confirm that

joe concha writes media for "the hill." he joins us tonight. joe, is that fair?n't some rogue reporter, tucker, that just writes a story and there it goes, out, published. there is a vetting system. and the vetting system starts with the senior editor you just mentioned. she has a job tonight. and by the way, she only put out a statement, an op-ed, basically, explaining what happened. and we hear about news organizations, publications, demanding transparency from people in power that they cover. i agree with that completely. but, in this case, she should be answering questions right now in terms of why is she okayed it and why this reporter was thrown under the bus, because he very easily, tucker, could have been on order saying why don't you look into his social media history? look, as a writer and reporter myself, if an editor tells you to do something, you do it. when you estimate a story, the editor can either pull that out or put it in. either way, it shouldn't be completely your responsibility while the editors get away with zero responsibility. >> tucker: