attorney joe digenova with respect to those things. i'm going to base my remarks very heavily if not exclusively, pun intended on what has been admitted either by secretary clinton publicly at a press conference on march 10 or on her behalf by her counsel and her office and statements that have been issued. i'm going to suggest at the starting point for looking at all of this would be the first week that she was in office in january of 2009. at least four times one when she began to does not a second estate, too when she departed for years later in 2013 three, when she did whatever she did do in 2014 in response to the request that came from the state department, and for, currently what she is saying or not saying after press conference and any other remarks that i made on her behalf. but at the outset in january of 2009, she would have, as a new secretary of captain agency, or even as new agency had more generally, have a briefing with the top administrative people at her agency. very likely although i don't know this for certain on p