host: joe fuld.we talked about an hour advocacy season, we think one of the most powerful advocacy tactics is for actual people to pick up the phone and called a legislator and say would you have a cup of coffee with me? and that that is really important for folks to talk to their elected officials. he brings up great points. one of the other points he made on the political side was it is about mobilization. all of these campaigns, even the presidential race still comes down to votes. so you really have to talk about turnout and you have to engage people on the issues they care about. host: i get back took on martin mentioned about the candidates running for office, particularly this year. there has been a lot of reports about the folks running for local offices, particularly secretary of state letter positions that seem, after the 2020 2020 elections that positions are people are threatened, their families are threatened. has that made it more difficult to enlist candidates to run? guest: absolutely

host: joe fuld.we talked about an hour advocacy season, we think one of the most powerful advocacy tactics is for actual people to pick up the phone and called a legislator and say would you have a cup of coffee with me? and that that is really important for folks to talk to their elected officials. he brings up great points. one of the other points he made on the political side was it is about mobilization. all of these campaigns, even the presidential race still comes down to votes. so you really have to talk about turnout and you have to engage people on the issues they care about. host: i get back took on martin mentioned about the candidates running for office, particularly this year. there has been a lot of reports about the folks running for local offices, particularly secretary of state letter positions that seem, after the 2020 2020 elections that positions are people are threatened, their families are threatened. has that made it more difficult to enlist candidates to run? guest: absolutely

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