here to discuss immigration reform and other hot political topics is joe garofoli and joe williams, thanks so both of you for being here. joe garofoli, let me start with you on immigration reform. mark zuckerberg gave a speech, which you attended, first political speech i think of mark's public persona and he was talking about immigration reform. tell us what you think the tech industry's real interest is in immigration reform. >> the tech industry, as many academic studies have recently shown, they like to expand the visa program because it gives them a alarmer pool of cheap labor that they can sort of keep for several years, and some have referred to as a form of indentured servitude. zuckerberg came at it from a very personal place. he said you know, that's not really where i come from here. his wife is a schoolteacher and he was introduced to actual dreamers, dream act kids. he spoke of a very personal connection that he has to this issue. it was kind of two different things, which was at screening for a new documentary. >> it seems like the republican party is divided in two wings on