we have several new polls and several questions for joe garofoli, senior political writer at "the san chronicle." we have a slew of polls out this morning. let's take a look. they claim biden is up slightly in florida and north carolina and he's enjoying a bigger lead in ohio and pennsylvania. trump is ahead in iowa. now, these margins in most cases are within the margin of error except pennsylvania, and after 2016 there are people with their concerns about the accuracy of these pollings, but what are the trends you're seeing in the battleground states and do you really believe that ohio number? >> i think none of these numbers change the trajectory of the race at this point. the race has been remarkably d ohio number, the campaigns definitely are taking it seriously because, look who is going there. ivanka trump and mike pence and kamala harris going there saturday and mike bloomberg is tossing a lot of -- several million dollars into ohio and texas as well so they both believe it's on the radar. >> and biden was in florida thursday and he heads to the midwest today but he's had a mu

earlier i spoke with joe garofoli, senior political writer at "the san francisco chronicle."ur thoughts on the town halls last night. what were your takeaways? did they change anything at this point? >> i don't think they are going to change anything. the president needed a big audience, so he's kind of the loser tonight. you know, instead of having 73 million people watching like there were in the first debate, you might have several million watching him. he needs an audience now. he is behind. >> joe, speaking of polls, one new poll shows biden leading trump by seven points in typically red state georgia. other polls show a tie in texas and florida. do you believe these polls or do you think trump's likely voters are being undercounted like they were in 2016? >> i don't believe that 7% or seven-point poll in georgia. that's definitely an outlier. in texas the president is up four points there. they haven't elected a democrat statewide there since 1994. i know democrats there say, oh, this is the year. this is the year. i don't know if that is -- that's going to be a tough o