to you. ♪ elizabeth: joining us now, fraternal order of police national vice president, he is joe grimaldigs -- it's good to see you. a spike in shootings across the country is putting the defund the police movement back on its heels. it takes a cultural shift, but that's a good thing, it seems like, for law enforcement and for victims and families out there and immigrant and minority families who are saying enough is enough. we're the victims getting victimized by this. what do you say? >> well, we're certainly seeing a shift in sentiment, but let me tell you just how bad it really is. we've had 185 police officers shot in this country as of august 1st which is a record number since we started tracking that six years ago. we've seen ambush attacks against police officer are up 126%. we combine that with our skyrocketing murder rah rate in this country which is, coincidentally, the highest in just about 30 years, and we're outpacing that number in 2021, and you can see how bad it is. but yet we still have these charlatan politicians that are selling snake oil to the public that defunding t

joe grimaldi of the fraternal order of police, he joins us next on "the evening edit." >> you cannothe defund the police movement attempts to do with law enforcement and expect crime to go down. ♪♪ ♪ lights out, follow the noise. ♪ ♪ baby, keep on dancing like you ain't got a choice. ♪ ♪ so come one (come on), come on (come on), come on. ♪ no one is just one flavor. ow! growing up in a little red house, on the edge of a forest no one in norway,e flavor. there were three things my family encouraged: kindness, honesty and hard work. over time, i've come to add a fourth: be curious. be curious about the world around us, and then go. go with an open heart and you will find inspiration anew. viking. exploring the world in comfort. time for new reading glasses? go to readers.com! choose from hundreds of styles and colors, for under $20. and now, enter this exclusive tv coupon code at checkout to save up to 40%. that's readers.com this is my third "live" concert this month. to save up to 40%. the energy is insane. the crowd, pumped. look, i haven't seen a show in a year. because the more we