. >> my name is joe guggenheim. i am concerned about the u.s. policy and the use of drums. i want to get your a valuation on the panel whether the extent of that is helping or hurting in terms of eliminating the number of terrorists facing the united states, the negative impact of drones versus the actual impact of what terrorists were getting and what changes might be made if you agree the problem is getting worse because of the drones. >> dennis blair has made headlines over the past year or so at various times by saying he thinks aggressive use of the drones is causing more long-term damage for the u.s. been the short-term benefits. >> i do not know how to evaluate that. the relatively easy question to evaluate is are drones and effective way of killing the enemy? the answer to that is pretty sick to the answer, and it is yes. -- pretty easy to answer, and it is yes. the reason it isn't it attractive choices they can extend power into areas that we do not have significant troop footprint it can deliver with an astonishing accuracy equal to other means of attacking things

. >> hi, joe guggenheim, just an individual citizen. you said, general, there's always a little disputes as to what the actual facts are with the iranian nuclear program. besides i understand, the u.s. government is saying that everything that's been done so by baby raimi and his consistent with just peaceful uses and they have not made any decision or taken any steps towards nuclear weapons. in that regard also, the supreme leader, the ayatollah has said that it would be a fatwa for iran to have a nuclear bomb and a person or send to happen. how do you evaluate that? had you think it might affect negotiations? >> i think we meant a long time ago. i admire your good deft handling of the domestic handling. they're very tricky right now and i agree with you totally. if we only stop talking about this issue, and be a lot easier to deal with it. but that's not going to work in either country. so let me ask you this question. she knew a margin 10 years from now, after perhaps a war with iran, perhaps not come a lot of other things we can ima