. >> i am joe guggenheim, just an interested to sin. i want to be on the view you're saying. what can we do now in the future to stop the killing and the refugees and the horrible situation. the questions, can their there cease-fire be achieved knowing the brutality of the assad regime. want to focus on what happens when the kofi annan churchy broker since element. i urge you speak a week ago in washington about this whole career, but this question and basically said they were trying to work out a ceasefire and there would be a transition. and over the transition period, assad would sit down at some point, maybe not right away, but at a process. they would have supported the other elements that were more a regime whose supporters would've gone along along with this. but he said that the western assisted they had to sit down first instead of having a process where would be understood that he would step down. if he could come to an agreement, just think of the international place that should have the will security council to get the assad regime with a critical issue. there's w

. >> joe guggenheim, just an interested citizen and want to commend you for the good work you are doing i want to raise a question about what can we do now in the future to stop the refugees and displaced and then horrible situation. the question is, can a cease-fire be achieved though in brutality of the assad regime and the fact that they may say one thing and then do another thing on the ground. but i wanted to focus on what happened with kofi annan trying to broker some type of settlement. i heard you speak about a month ago here in washington about this process when he talked about his whole career, but this question came up. he basically said they were trying to work at a cease-fire plan that he had proposed, where there would be a transition. and over the transition period, aside would sit down at some point, perhaps not away, but as part of the process and he said the russians would've supported this other element that was supporters would have gone along with this. he said the west insisted the assad had to step down first instead of the process where it would be understood he