>> joe hooley. -- of justice was informed that the guns were walking?>> i don't think he was very but he was there. >> did anyone express concern in this meeting that the number of weapons appearing in mexico or the number of weapons brought by the straw purchasers seemed to be too high? >> yes, someone on the of the end of the in the video because we had a videoconference, i believe it was somebody in the dallas field division who voiced that concern and there was some discussion. >> and we also have a memo that says we have to slow this down basically at the same time. so at a thousand it was too many. let me ask the two defenders of this program -- and by sorry but that does appear how your role today has been. did it ever occur that either one of you after mr. leadmon's march 1044 that you could let some of these block and intertek others meaning, quite frankly, when somebody had already bought 100 of them and transported them they were not going to sell to somebody different. you knew it was a straw purchaser, he usually had one customer she made t