here's what happened when we asked joe johns to take a camera crew and bring our questions to them. >> reporter: hey. joe johns with cnn. how are you all doing? >> i'm sorry, he's not here right now. he stepped out for lunch. >> reporter: can i leave him a message? >> yes. >> reporter: joe johns. is there carter or the press secretary around? >> they're in a meeting right now. >> reporter: can i leave a message? >> sure. >> reporter: joe johns with cnn. do you know what's happening to the amendment? >> i haven't heard talk about it once. >> reporter: you haven't really? he's a co-sponsor? >> i don't even know the answer to that question. >> congressman carter's office. >> reporter: it's joe johns with cnn. is john stone, the press secretary in, please? is the press secretary in? is he in? >> sir, he's not in at the moment. would you like me to take a message. >> sir? >> reporter: yes, ma'am. >> he wasn't picking up. would you like his voicemail? >> yes, please. >> no one seems to want to talk about this, and getting back to colonel lakin, not being answers there, either. the last time we tried to take to him was before

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