joe kernan is joining us. orning, joe. >> i don't know if you have talked to wilfred about brexit, but sovereignty, i mean, that speaks to you a little, wilfred. i know that. >> it does. >> i know it does. and i don't want to say it was the same situation that we are under in the 18th century, but people chafe when there's an empire asserting its will on somebody else from a country far away, taxation without representation, not that there's that, but the laws are made by bureaucrats, not by the u.k. not for nothing. you're torn, wilfred. you have the sovereignty but then you got the long-term health of the european union. so you need to make up your mind. and you won't tell me, i know that. >> i won't. i remain impartial. i will vote but i won't tell people how i vote. >> i thought that was a great approach. i mean, boris is crazy, i know that. but i thought it was a great approach. 20 years from now if you look back and say, who in the right mind thought britain should stay? we'll see. >> the problem of the a