and the trump of ministration is struggling to keep it alive investigative journalist and author joe lauria believes the report proves there is no need for mass surveillance. it proves what was fernando anyone who could see clearly that this was a fraud from the very beginning this was about power and money the power of the government control of the american people and the money the contractors that ran this program have made this based on false fear and that's the last line of defense of the united states all the time to try to confuse the interests of a small number of powerful people with the interests of the nation you know the united states has had a long history of this false fear of keeping the american people afraid and trying to say that they have to be protected it's basically a protection racket they scare the people and then they say we will protect you that's what the mafia does hopefully this report will get the wide attention of deserves so that's beginning people begin to question these false narratives of fear and why they need these kinds of $1000000000.00 programs that ma

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