joe lieberman.e on the administration plan with a bloomberg interview -- micking old baby mulvaney. this is bloomberg. ♪ david: this is "bloomberg markets: balance of power." i'm david gura. equifax has -- consumers struggling to assess the safety of their personal information. units are down 5%. talk about a huge breach and cybersecurity. 140 million plus americans. how is this ring out in that space? >> not well. here's the thing. we got news of this this week. one of the biggest stories of the week. huge deal for the three big credit surveillance consumer reporting agencies. equifax is the one where the hack happens. i was look at trans union. about six point 5%. getting closer to the lows on the day. downwill be the biggest move if we close at this level in the stock's history. if we jump in at the terminal, i put this chart together exhibiting what we're looking at in terms of the actual decline. this is an offense that is a racing rallies and dollar amounts -- a racing -- you rallies andasing

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a former senator from connecticut, joe lieberman also with us. ♪ david: long-awaited details from theuse on tax reform, a process that's -- that has been spearheaded by a group known as the big six, a group of lawmakers led by the chairman of the house ways and means committee, congressman kevin brady. >>

it was started by joe lieberman and john huntsman.hey say they're trying to help mend fences on all parties on capitol hill. the senate is holding a confirmation of huntsman to russia today. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> shepard: are they closer to this bill? sounds like john mccain is closer. theres more to go. >> by my count, there's five on the fence. collins, murkowski and mccain. you need to lose two and pence would be the 51st. they're not there yet. the senate leader doesn't want to bring it to the floor unless they have the votes. they have that t-shirt and they're not going to have that embarrassment of 2:00 a.m. of falling short. as we saw senator graham make a convincing case, it's federalism versus socialism at this point, this is a huge risk for congression congressional risk to bring up the bill without having coverage. you could have the estimates come out about what it does to the deficit, what it does to people with coverage how much it raises prices. the hospital groups are against it and saying twit affect

between started by joe lieberman and john huntsman. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> shepard: looking for a path forward. they didn't have a path forward last time or this time. where are they going to find a path forward as brock long is making his way to the microphone. hang on, a.b. is that what you said? pointing to my ear. i assumed there might be a picture, a.b., sounds like he's being introduced. why don't you answer the question, what is the path forward i'm talking about? >> isn't a path forward. that's what they have to say every time one of their appeal efforts dies. they can't repeal it. they have to fix it. they don't want to work with democrats. they don't want to be accused by the conservative voter whose they a promised they would take care of this for seven years, that they're going to shore up the obama law and going to help it become stronger so they keep trying to get rid of it. they can't. they don't have the votes, the trump voters want a deeper safety net. the whole feeling about obamacare has changed in t

the three amigos, graham, joe lieberman and mccain seen here out for a hike after mccain's first roundpy. senator graham emotional when mccain's diagnosis became become. >> no more woe is me, lindsey. he is yelling at me to buck up. so i'm going to buck up. >> the white house is hoping graham can secure mccain's support. even he is offering in guarantees. >> you can have different opinions about the quality of this bill. >> those close to mccain say that graham's persuasion will only go so far. it will ultimately be his decision to make. mccain said he's still carefully considering the bill and its impact on arizona. >> the process i still am deeply disturbed about. we should go through a committee like -- we're going to vote on the defense bill right now and it will be 80 some. that's because we went through months of hearings, mark-ups, debate, a whole week on the floor. that's what we should be doing with health care and we're not doing it. just like the democrats didn't do it in '09. >> but just like july, mccain refuses to tip his hand, which means we may not know whether or not t

people think of joe lieberman and sometimes john mccain and susan collins as the more independent membersa guy who struggles to condemn white supremacists as independent in the spectrum. i understand what you were saying. you were talking about unattached. a free agent. is that right? is that fair? >> that's exactly right. another way of saying disrupter which is a phrase we've used a lot this year. attachment to the party and to, you know, a team because, being part of this team. we've seen again and again he does not consider himself to be part of the team. he tweeted last week in response to those upset with him for his fiscal deal. he said republicans, sorry, but this is -- he used the phrase as if he was addressing republicans to be somebody other than himself. his affiliation with party, not an ideology. that's a different thing. >> heidi, this caused such a kerfuffle because this president is soerkassocied particularly i the minds of democrats in some of the most polarizing politics in modern history. >> in the ensuing six months since he took over, the democrats who thought maybe

and the reason was he was steadfast against the war in iraq whereas joe lieberman was supportive and at the time on the left wing of the party felt their representatives in washington hadn't done a good enough job representing their views. you're seeing a similar phenomenon on the right with many trump supporters feeling that congress has let them down, that they elected the president to carry out certain promises, certain priorities and those aren't being accomplished. and they're not being accomplished because of senate leadership. and roy moore went into this race challenging mitch mcconnell. so did mo brooks and other primary contestant who did not make the run-off. but the establishment's choice, luther strange. and so for all of his controversies, whatever his views happen to be, the most important thing to the gra grassroots conservatives in alabama and rerd of breitbart was that he was challenging senate leadership. >> let's get a little more personal here. you're of the jewish faith and i wish you a good fast. you replied to a tweet by our chris hay whoes posed the question,

as the then chair of the senate homeland security committee, along with senator joe lieberman of connecticut, i led a bipartisan investigation into the response to hurricane katrina at the federal, state and local levels. our investigation, which resulted in this some would say weighty report, revealed many weaknesses in our nation's emergency response system. and although i doubt very many people read the whole report, it does have an excellent summary that i was just discussing with the chief, and it was evident to me in rereading it, that we've learned many of the lessons of katrina, but we still have a long ways to go. one of the weaknesses in our nation's emergency response system included the failure on the part of all levels of government to plan and provide for timely and effect evaluation of our most vulnerable seniors. since then we've expanded our efforts to improve emergency preparedness and response across the entire country and emphasized the protection of the most vulnerable. meanwhile, mother nature continues to unleash her fury. today, even as we meet, yet another hurricane,