here to discuss former senator joe lieberman, former vice presidential candidate. good to see you. >> you too, bill. thanks for having me. >> happy holidays to you. much of the story of our reporting was unlike the obamacare repeal and replace failure. >> right. >> there was incredible republican discipline. they went off the hill, kept everybody contained. nobody went rogue to kill this thing. ultimately your takeaway for what this means for america today. >> okay. first on the process, you're right. it reminded me of the obamacare adoption in 2009. no republican votes. great changes like this on the tax bill yesterday really should have bipartisan support. it means they will last longer. here again, that's not what is happening in congress today. it wasn't bipartisan. but they did get something done. it is is significant. and you have to say it's a victory for the president. even though the tax bill itself is unpopular now, i think it will get more popular as the year goes on. the truth is in the short-term, and that's eight years until 2025, most americans will

he's got life long friends in lindsey graham and joe lieberman. ey were the three amigos. >> together again. the band back. the e street band. >> another good friend of his is joe biden. he was on "the view" recently where he tried to comfort megan mccain. joe biden's son had the same type of cancer. >> there is hope. if anybody can make it, your dad -- her dad is one of my best friends. her dad -- her dad goes after me hammer. we're like two brothers who were somehow raised by different fathers or something. >> what do you want to be remembered for? >> he served his country. that's what i'd like to see. he served his country. hopefully with the word honorably on it. that's all. >>> we'll be back in a moment. when we do, the news media start to work their way into our list. old and new. >>> when we first sat here, one of our more boisterous conversations was about what wasn't going -- >> you attacked me about buying toothpaste on amazon. >> you have amazon. is that amazon prime or are we talking three to five days? >> amazon is a -- it's on multipl

he's got lifelong friends in lindsey graham and joe lieberman, they were the three amigos. >> together, the band. >> the band is back. >> the e street band, the f street, i don't know what it is. >> another good friend of his is joe biden. he was on "the view" recently when he tried to comfort meghan mccain. joe biden's son beau had the same type of cancer. >> there's hope. if anybody can make it, your dad -- her dad is one of my best friends. [ applause ] her dad goes after me hammer and tongs. we're like two brothers who were somehow raised by different fathers or something. >> what do you want to be remembered for? >> he served his country. that's what i would like to see. he served his country, hopefully with the word "honorably" on it. that's all. >>> we'll be back in a moment. and when we do, the news media start to work their way into our list. old and new. >>> when we first sat here, one of our more boisterous conversations was about what -- >> you attacked me about -- >> you were not under attack. >> -- buying toothpaste on amazon. >> you have amazon. and is that amazon prime

note that we are the -- home of the die owe defense commission that's cochaired by former senator joe lieberman, former dhs secretary, fofrmer governor tom ridge that seeks to improve preparedness for chemical, biological, chemical, biological, biohazard events and also seeks to improve coordination in the yash. and we have also just launched a major new project funded by the john dee and catherine t. mcarthur foundation on sustaining bipartisan u.s. leadership against nuclear terrorism that is led by senior fellow richard white. this project intends to build an enduring foundation with inclusive u.s. global leadership regarding your security and strengthen mystic political consensus on policies and trying to counter nuclear terrorism. first speaker in this serious was chris ford. today's speaker, our first speaker is elaine c. duke, the seventh deputy of security at the department of homeland security. she just completed a term as acting secretary at dhs. she has nearly three decades of experience at the dhs in senior positions where she was under secretary of management for the tsa and variou

when bill clinton was proven right under oath and otherwise came out only joe lieberman was willing tosay this is wrong. we can't stand for this. i think it's going to be potentially mixed in 2018 and a lot more supported because folks like flake and got for a bed of the likely senator mccain and others may not be there in 2019 and the senate. and then it comes down to the facts. at the end of the day, if the facts are nearly debate about a structure, i think you're going to have a fight over this, whether what they found is a high crime and misdemeanor. that's not going to be helpful for a lot of the policy talking about and certainly will the election. >> dana: have the democrats seated too much ground on policy and letting those things get done while they focus on russia? is there a bowl vulnerability there if they have a litmus test to call for impeachment such as he is recommended? >> to the latter question, yes. i don't think democrats should be pursuing in all impeachment strategy. and i do think that could be incredibly counterproductive. if the investigation plays out and make

you can do is -- you will get killed, you will become the face of the opposition much the way joe liebermana lot of people wanting to win re-election in 2018 who are not rocking the boat. then after 2018 you'll see people rock the boat. this sets up in every way -- this is going to be about trump, it's going to be a democratic year. the party in power usually loses seats, it's going to be a democratic year. so we'll see. americans like divided government. i think they will check the president. >> let's talk about, howard, where the progressive movement is right now, somebody who has represented in it and been invested in it from the women's march forward. it's been a year of energy for progressive groups. can they keep up that energy? >> i think the progressives are in the process of informally taking over the democratic party. i think the country has moved to the left. it's shocking to me but a majority of americans think medicare for all is a good idea. that, bernie gets a lot of credit for that. i don't think he's going to be the next nominee. he could be. i'm very much for somebody who