. >> let's bring into the conversation joe lockhart, a former white house press secretary. d that you've been with us and been able to hear some of the exchange going back and forth. how do you think that the white house is going to be able to make use of what ted cruz has been doing for his own purposes, knowing full well that it wasn't going to go anywhere as it's technically not a filibuster. how do you think the white house can make use of this to actually educate about obama care? >> listen, first off, the definition of a good situation for democrats is when we're debating whether a republican is playing dumb or is dumb. it's hard to know in this case. you know, i think the sort of -- the civil war that's going on in the republican party, you know, gives the democrats and the white house a chance to go out and talk about, you know, how important this health care law is. i mean they have a real challenge right now, which is to go out and market this, like any other product, like insurance companies have been marketing health care. and the fact that this has been raised t

>> he was much better than joe lockhart for the democratic cause. >> are you kidding? about eliminating a $1 trillion unconstitutional entitlement which is going to bankrupt the united states. which is -- i just read that, obama care which i read for rick. >> you're not getting rid of it, you're putting it off for a year. >> you're giving it time to collapse under its own weight. >> are you trying to stir the pot? because mr. santelli is going to be joining us. joining us from the cme in chicago. would you like to respond to the twitter mafia? >> say what they said again. i really didn't catch it. >> no, we had what was supposed to be a debate between a republican and democrat on what the republicans. >> not all republicans feel the same. >> they decided the fleas on the tail of the dog are the ones that had the party backed into this -- >> yeah, backed in. >> because i didn't come up we limb nating a $1 trillion unconstitutional entitlement which will bankrupt the u.s. they called me an idiot for saying that's the plan. >> everybody's upset we have a couple of senator

. >>> we are back with joe lockhart, kevin madden and dawna brazil.o -- i want to read to you from a quote from anonymous source that he was directed to. she's running but she doesn't know it yet. it's just a like a force of history. it's inexorderable. i think she actually believes she has more say than she does. you were quoted in the article as a member of the inner circle. joe, you have worked for the clintons. so give us your take. because again, it's my experience that when they lead to sources that say things like this, she's running. >> it's too early to predict it. but the train has left the station. the train was already on the tracks. it wasn't derailed in 2008, it was just slowed down. i believe she runs. she has a very strong chance of winning the nomination, and of course winning the presidency, but i believe hillary clinton is one of the most phenomenal women in the world today. she's a great leader, she's decisive. she has the kind of energy you want, the kind of ideas that we need in this country. if she runs, i really do believe this

lockhart. bill dudley and dallas fed president richard fisher. of course, you know, as joef these guys because they didn't give us great guidance last time around? >> given up. >> all of them -- >> not one? we should go back and watch. >> you're still going to listen. >> i'd listen to yellen, but she just canceled -- she just canceled the speech she was supposed to be giving. >> she's not giving any speeches right now. >> yeah. she's going to lay low. >> didn't you think they'd taper? >> i think they did a terrible job of communicating. it's really amazing to me they would let the market get this far and then, boom. >> fisher, the former -- stanley fisher was out with criticism saying he thinks the fed shouldn't try to do the word guidance here. the problem is, it boxes you in, leaves you little flexibility and when circumstances change, it's a lot harder to back out. so he's a name who has been brought up as a potential dark horse candidate to run as the fed head. >> he has a different view. i would say on balance what the fed is doing toward transparency, a good thing. i