far is very key names in this space charles hofmann stan and and joe louis ben and you know you talk about is there still a lot of chat between you and metallik on these guys and trying to shepherding this industry going forward because now that you've all become successful and if you look at the forbes list of top though folks you know certainly have to say mega successful but is there still a lot of like chatter amongst you guys and you have a certain responsibility to do this industry oh definitely definitely i'm sure yeah i talked to a number of those guys still and my focus turned away from syria in two thousand and fifteen to continue building while that's which is what my company does we build a wall called jacks and we support that point of syria all the boats seventy different ones right now so i win more of your theory and to try to support the entire ecosystem and i don't want to just put all my eggs in one thing so it's still a big fan of big big fan of the theory and trying to bring everybody together and unite this whole ecosystem and really bring it forward so so durin