speech and innovation for more on this i'm joined by one of the law's critics civil rights activist joe lovano ram from singapore donovan good to see you not just two weeks ago you go find five thousand singapore dollars that's about three thousand euros for refusing to take down a facebook post would you be in jail right now under these new laws. yes because the new law is that the a law will hold the government prosecute anyone for publishing online salsas so in the case that you just mentioned i was fined for scandalising the judiciary analysis audit of pay seven thousand all this in costs to the prosecutor do you think that this new law that has just been lost targets people such as yourselves. yes definitely because in the last few years there has been a crackdown by the government on on critics and activists who have been to critical of the government and the ruling party but you also have a situation in which feat news for example is making dens in democracies are on the wall so when the government wants to pass a law that wants to regulate what is wrong with the. well we have to unders