i am here with joe lubin, also the co-of consensus. being here what do you make recent price activity in crypto? >> if you have been watching for years over the last few months, it's clear there is so much more activity in the general blockchain ecosystem and especially the ethereum ecosystem and the prices have risen in concert and so there was so much intensity that they essentially a few weeks ago hit a bit of a blowoff top. but we're back to growing in price and the activity hasn't stopped and the cycles that we're seeing aren't in our ecosystem just because we're really crossing the chasm. this is really relevant to pop culture and the financial word right now. so the cycles are really compressed we will see recoveries much faster. >> reporter: the downturn cycles are compressed. >> absolutely. >> reporter: volatility is what you are expect sng. >> there will be volatility because this sta fparadigm shift underway to new trust foun dags, new decentralized financial infrastructure on the planet and many things being built on top of

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