joe manchin, who, of course, campaigned for the office holding a rifle.his is a big change. >> well, for joe manchin, this is a critical time. he was just reelected to a full-term. he has a bit of breathing room, and this is an issue that he is willing to really try and find some ground. he will talk about his a-plus rating with the national rifle association, and a state like west virginia has a long history and kind of cultural tie to guns so, he understands it from that point of view. at the same time he is saying he wants to try to find a way to do more. now, today senator dianne feinstein introduced her assault weapons ban of 2013. she had been responsible for one back in the 1990s, and that is probably a step where joe manchin is not yet ready to go. is there a place where democrats can get together around something that relates to dealing with the gun violence issue, and also these other political considerations? joe manchin is one of the most sought after people on this topic because as a democrat, his point of view is important, and he can carry

we are joined by former presidential candidate jon huntsman and congressman joe manchin next.on? -oh! -oh! oh! [ female announcer ] with 40 delicious progresso soups at 100 calories or less, there are plenty of reasons people are saying "progress-oh!" share your story for a chance to win a progress-oh! makeover in hollywood. go to facebook.com/progresso to enter. >>> with me now, senator joe manchin, democrat from west virginia and former presidential candidate and former utah governor jon huntsman, thank you for being here and joining forces here. i have to say when i was reading about this, and said, okay, goals to argue less and act more, and i'm thinking, yeah, but how do you go about that, particularly from the outside? why is an outside group needed? >> well, let me say from no labels' standpoint when i was a senator two years ago, i was enamored from this, because i came from a governorship, and jon and i were governors together in 2004 we were elected respectively from utah and west virginia and friends and democrat and republican to solve problems and i thought that t

well rajiv you hurt john mccain you heard joe manchin you heard stanley mcchrystal.ind of three different points of view on afghanistan. i think one thing that seems certain here, we're getting ready to leave afghanistan. that's the bottom line. >> we most certainly are and there's going to be a very substantial reduction in forces this year. the president made that all but clear in his remarks with the president karzai last week. and i think we're going to have a very small follow on force there in 2015 and beyond. bob, washington is so awk sells wd --obsessed with this number. it's going to be what the military wants which i here from my sources is 12,000. ultimately the difference between 3,000 and 6,000 isn't going to be all that great. the more important issue is actually one of money which something this town likes to debate a lot about. you know as we reduce forces, afghanistan is still going to need $4 billion a year stake its army and police force. think back to the stays when the soviets withdrew. the communist backed government didn't even fall a year late

at that moment and just didn't. >> you have joe manchin, democrat, that has an a-plus rating.rms. come out and immediately go -- okay, listen, we are going to have to sit and talk about this. and then you have wayne lapierre come out and do what he did which -- again, offended mid america. >> now we are going to move on and do a few more other stories in this block. and the next one, i believe, is on the debt ceiling with the government on pace to run out of money by mid february. president obama warned republican leaders raising the borrowing limit was nonnorthbound deg officialable and struck back at members of congress who aimed to use the issue as leverage to extract deep spending cuts. >> while i'm willing to compromise and find common ground over how to reduce our deficits, america cannot afford another debate with this congress about whether or not they should pay the bills that they railroad lacked up. even entertain the idea of this happening. of the united states of america not paying its bills is irresponsible. it is absurd. republicans in congress have two choice h

then the dying art of bipartisanship with west virginia democratic senator joe manchin and former republican presidential candidate jon huntsman. plus, guns, spending and all the president's men and we do mean men, with republican congresswoman marcia blackburn, democratic congressman elijah cummings, "the new york times" jeff zeleny. and jeff scherer. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> a month after the massacre in newton, connecticut, the vice president is expected to present an array of gun control proposals this week. # he has publicly mentioned universal background checks on gun buyers and restrictions on high capacity magazines. the white house adds that president will also push congress for an assault weapons ban, a spokesman explained biden did not mention the controversial ban because the panel focused on consensus proposals. it appears you can count the national rifle association out of that conken sus. for starters, biden talked about his conclusions before he met with the nra and after the biden session the gun rights lobby said, quote, we were disappointed with

. >> reporter: that includes strong pro-gun politicians likeke senator joe manchin of west virginia, who famously carried and shot a gun in an ad for his 2010 campaign. manchin has told the president that, after newtown, he's open to reasonable gun control. do you think senator manchin's willingness to discuss gun control now, is that significant? >> if joe manchin is doing that, then more moderate members, for sure, on this particular issue are really thinking it over.king >> reporter: what kinds of laws do you think possible to pass congress right now? >> i think the background check is possible. and i think magazine and assault weapon bans are possible. >> reporter: what about that argument, that the assaultul weapons ban didn't preventen something like columbine. it would not have prevented cho at virginia tech. >> the fact is no law is going to be perfect. >> reporter: the argument, ms. t brady, though, is that, don't pass them because they don't work. >> but they do help. if they save any lives, they're worth it. >> reporter: brady believes that gun control legislation will sti

and joe manchin, i think of this, doesn't this sound great, joe? it makes a lot of sense.about the gun debate. and i think about all the people who went out to buy their bushmasters quickly before the laws change against them. i mean, there is the concept of problem solving. >> let me just say on what you just read. i just told you about the senate. we have not had a bipartisan caucus, to talk to our colleagues just in the senate. democrats and republicans. we do it and get together with a few of our friends here and there and talk about what our differences may be. you can just imagine, we didn't even know who our colleagues were on congress, over across the hall. >> right. >> by not knowing that, problem solvers is the first venue. problem solvers basically with no labels put together the problem-solving group. it's the first time i had a chance to in two years to meet some of my colleagues on congress and be able to have a serious dialogue. what are our differences? what can you get through on your side? how can we work together before you send us something that we can'

of course, joe manchin is the hero in this. the very beginning, joe has been talking about sensible gun regulation. he's in west virginia. he's catching a lot of flak from it. but joe's not in favor of gun control. joe, like me, believes that americans have a right to keep and bear arms, to have handguns in their homes, shotguns, hunting rifles to protect their families, to go hunting. joe just doesn't believe that there should be no regulations. and i think tom, with this universal background check approach, i think we're going to see this moving towards passage. and that's a good first step towards sensible regulation of some of the most, i think, most extreme weapons and high-capacity magazines. >> willie. >> and as joe says, it's incredibly popular. the american public, 90% of americans favor some kind of a background check. that chicago story you read, the city is such a fascinating case study in gun control because gun rights advocates say you have the toughest gun laws in the country. handguns were outright banned until

so joe manchin is welcome to his opinion-- which he's stated to people from his own state just a few days ago-- that he thinks the only reason people should have guns is for sports. but that's not what the second amendment says. the second amendment says that self-defense is the core of the second amendment. so when you talk about taking away things because maybe they're not used very often in deer hunting but they'r critical to the second amendment, that's a real problem. for example: the typical handgun that a person owns today, whether for for protection in the home or for carrying, is the same kind of gun that police officers carry, that they're the best for self-defense and that is very frequent lay semiautomatic handgun with a magazine between 11 and 19 round. because the fact is lots of criminals don't go down and fall down after being shot once or twice, sometimes they're on methamphetamine or cocaine and they keep on going or other times a lone individual n be attacked by a gang. so the same reason that the police correctly choose these as the best for their job of defending

west virginia senator joe manchin is with us. former florida congressman connie mack joins me, and actor steven michael pozatta from "breaking bad." "starting point" comes to you live with special coverage from newtown, connecticut. we begin right now. ♪ >>> morning. welcome, everybody. we're coming to you live this morning, as i said, from newtown, connecticut. life in this small town changed forever a month ago today. today is the day of remembrance for those 20 children and six adults who were gunned down at sandy hook elementary school a month ago. today at 10:30 eastern time the stratford connecticut town council will vote on a proposal to name a new school after victoria soto, a teacher who was killed in that shooting. then at 11:00 a.m. eastern the group sandy hook promise unveils its plan to honor the victims. a national grassroots effort to address gun violence. they'll be joined by families of victims and survivors of other mass shootings. >>> last night at a public forum some 200 newtown residents debated the future of

and yes, that's joe manchin, joe "'a'" rating from the nra, i'm so proud of the nra" manchin, now working on a proposal to extend background checks. we spoke with both senator kirk's office and senator manchin's office tonight about who else might be part. both offices independently stressed that this truly is a bipartisan effort, that is realistic. republicans are thinking they might want this too. is public pressure on this one issue, is public opinion on this one issue so lopsided that this finally is a no-brainer policy, no matter how cynical the beltway feels about it? join us now is senator richard blumenthal of connecticut, who has introduced the ammunition background check of 2013. senator blumenthal, it's really nice to have you here. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> at today's hearing was there a moment when you felt like the politics were moving, that we're actually making progress on the issue? >> certainly gabby giffords' appearance was absolutely riveting, a high point, dramatic and powerful moment for the entire committee, republicans and democrats, the st

>> harry reid, joe manchin from west virginia, bob casey from pennsylvania. the aim for the president now is to find these n.r.a.-backed democrats and squeeze them and put the pressure on and say, are you uncomfortable when i bring little children up here to talk about schoolplace shootings? i can do it in your state or where you live and i can come and keep the pressure on you, until you agree to do some kind of a gun ban and get on board. remember this, megyn, you hit it right on the head, if the president can't get legislation out of the senate, he can't begin to apply pressure on the house. he can talk about it, but until the senate can actually move legislation, it's not going to work, so somebody like joe manchin who we first met on the national scene shooting with a deer rifle, the president's cap and trade bill back in 2010, if he can't get guys like that to sign up and get on board, nothing will happen. i bet he'll come with a pretty heavy hand. >> megyn: he's a west virginia guy, joe manchin and you're a west virginia guy. west virginia is not going

you have had some moderate democrats, people like joe manchin come out and say, listen, this is a time we put everything on the table but even they have back pedaled to a certain degree so it is, i mean, that is very hard road that i think this president has. >> what would be their motivation then, for example, when the nra claims that they have seen an increase in their roles by thousands of people who are now joining the nra and inspired by what they see as this battle ahead? what would then motivate someone like a joe manchin who say everything's on the table but maybe not when it comes to specific guns? i believe that heitcamp said it's extreme ideas. >> that's the folks the president has to talk to. i had an idea to go to these people's districts, that is something that you have seen him do when he was trying to get money passed around the stimulus package and among -- about infrastructure. that's something i think he will have to do. take the fight to the folks who might be movable. this idea that we should continue, you know, to have a conversation with folks on the fringes, i d

this week joe manchin is pouring cold water on that and seems to be back pedaling.anken is up for re-election. today he put out statement saying in principle he supports a ban on assault weapons but didn't say he supports legislation to do that. what the fear is i'm told by one top democratic senator an assault weapons ban suggests the president is taking weapons away that plays into republican arguments like marco rubio who said this today on fox. >> there is a second amendment. i didn't write the constitution. i believe in it. if you are going to do anything that impacts it. it better make some sense. here is the problem that i have by the president's own admission, the things that they're putting forward would have done nothing to prevent what happened, for example, in connecticut. >> and that's why top democratic senator is telling me privately he thinks it's much more likely that the president will not get a ban on assault weapons. but, instead, will get something that's less controversial like a national background check, having a system like that. that's more

the group is headed by democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia and former republican governor of utah jon huntsman. in the final news conference of his first term, president obama told reporters the u.s. can't afford a drawn-out debate over raising the debt ceiling, which could reach its lmit in mid february. "raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending. it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. these are bills that have already been racked up, and we need to pay them." president obama warns that if the debt limit is not raised or used as leverage by republicans, markets would go haywire, interest rates would rise, and checks to military veterans and people on social security would end. gop senate minority leader mitch mconnel reponded by saying, "the president and his allies need to get serious about spending, and the debt-limit debate is the perfect time for it." traders will get their first opportunity to react to comments at the market close yesterday by federal reserve chairman ben bernanke. among the highlights

applause ) >> pelley: with the help of vice president biden on his right and democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia on his left, mark kirk climbed those 45 steps of the u.s. capitol. or the junior senator from illinois, the most triumphant steps yet on a long road to recovery. also recovering this week from a blood clot in the head is hillary clinton. one day after she was released from a new york hospital, her effice said today that the secretary of state will be back e neork next week. there's a new report out about some of the most dangerous drivers on the road. at aun sales in california hit a record, but gun deaths are down. and thin ice forces two teens up a tree. what happened next when the cbs evening news continues. forces two teens up a tree. what happened next when the cbs evening news continues. [ nyquil bottle ] you know i relieve coughs, sneezing, fevers... [ tylenol [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion. yeah...i heard him. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. relhelps provide many with,

. >> even some democrats in congress like joe manchin are acknowledging an assault weapons ban would have a hard time passing. >> assault weapons alone, on just guns alone, will not in the political reality we have today will not go anywhere it has so be comprehensive, candy. that's what i tried to tell the vice president and told everybody, it has to be a comprehensive approach. >> we'll talk much more about this with senator manchin and former utah governor jon huntsman straight ahead on "morning joe." >>> today marks one month since the mass shooting in newtown, connecticut. town officials are holding public hearings on what to do with sandy hook elementary school and whether students and staff should ever return to the building. some newtown residents are joining the national conversation on gun policy. >> reporter: one month after police converged on sandy hook elementary school, the newtown police chief has a message for the white house. >> ban assault weapons, restrict those magazines that have so many bullets in them. >> reporter: he said the gunman had more fire power than h

also, joe manchin. at 2:00 p.m., fox's sunday, chris wallace with richard blumenthal, the connecticut democrat, and kelly ayotte, a new hampshire republican. cnn kos "state of the union" follows at 3:00 p.m.. david keene, president of the nra, and chris murphy of connecticut, and joe manchin of west virginia. at four o'clock, "face the nation" will bring john mccain and john manchin of west -- west virginia. also, stanley, crystal. -- retired general stanley crystal. finally at 4:00 eastern, "face the nation" from cbs. you can listen to the mall and c-span rio, on a 90.1 fm in the washington, d.c. rate -- washington, d.c. area. you can also listen on your smartphone or go online to c- span.org teo .org -- cspanradio.org. >> hopkins could read the president's new unlike anybody else. he came as close as anyone to be in evidence in to what robert sherwood would call roosevelts heavily forested interior. heavily forested interior. he went to be still in the presence of the president. went to press him. whe

dianne feinstein said it will be hard but you see people like joe manchin willing to work on some things. he's a touchstone for a lot of democrats who look to people who are supporters of gun rights. i'm wontderring when you have the people who do push back on certain parts of it and that does include joe manchin and people like harry reid who basically has said he's not superulatively supportive of the president's plan. let's put it that way. i'm wondering, ryan is this because they live in those gun states, they fear the nra? tell us about the difficulties of getting some people like harry reid on board. >> right. it's because they understand the politics of guns. the problem for gun control advocates has never been broad popularity. a majority of people generally support gun control. they support an assault weapons ban. you showed those polls. there's broad support for these kinds of things. the problem isn't intensity. people who support an assault weapons ban don't -- in the past have not voted on their support of an assault weapons ban. you know, they would say that, yes, given the

i had joe manchin tell me this. >> you do that with a regular gun, semi automatic gun.assault weapon. street sweepers. >> and that's the challenge. the challenge in '94, it will be the challenge today, as they try to write legislation to bring to the senate if they do a piece meal approach. how do you define it? because it's not the semiautomatic feature. it's the stock, it's the site, it's the grip. those are the things they had to write into the law in 1994. they had to specify very specific models. and that becomes a challenge, not just for writing legislation but for -- >> the cynic in me says the assault weapons ban proposal is up for negotiation. >> yeah. >> it says, if they can get universal background checks and the >> there are gun control advocates including carol mccarthy who suggests that might not be -- that would be an outcome -- here's a question for me, how much does president obama actually invest in this proposal. >> he was more invested yesterday than i thought he would be. >> there's a lot of other things that he needs to do this year and wants to do

joe manchin worries congress has become too divided. >> it's almost guilt by conversation that i can't even sit down and have an open conversation and a dialogue without someone saying, well, you have changed. >> vice president joe biden supports a ban but during an on- line chat he says he is more concerned about banning high capacity mag scenes. >>> president obama has nominated a former prosecutor, mary joe white. the president says she's got the toughness and experience needed to help clean up wall street. >> if confirmed by the senate, i look forward to committing all are my energies to fulfill the agency's mission to protect investors and to ensure the strength, efficiency and the transparency of our capital markets. >> white earned that strong reputation as the first female attorney in manhattan. she prosecuted terrorists who targeted the u.n. and the world trade center. >>> and president obama taps senator john kerry to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. kerry is the outgoing chairman of the very committee he's testifying before and he's expected to sail through the

vice president joe biden and senator joe manchin stood by the illinois republican as had he to use a four-pronged cane to climb those 45 steps to the capitol. senator kirk had to learn to walk again after that stroke. >>> d.c. delegate eleanor holmes norton is in her 11th term up on the hill and while she is facing the same legislative calendar as her colleagues, she's also focused on the inauguration and the estimated 800,000 folks expected to show up and expect to have a great time. she's here with me now to talk about the impact on our city and delegate norton, welcome. we do understand you worked out a bit of a better deal for the city when it comes to money from the feds this time around. >> we don't have to front this time. got up to $10 million up front and it will. we can go back to get reimbursed. >> i think cities expected a windfall but may not have expected the impact of all the security. >> well, from last time they ought to be because remember that was 2 million people. now we're talking something under a million, but i met yesterday with the whole task force. it's a do

. >>> joe manchin of west virginia said he's working to develop a separate proposal that would expand background checks on gun sales. a new era is now under way in the u.s. military. the pentagon yesterday announced it has lifted a 20 year ban that prevented women from serving in combat roles. the move was approved by leon panetta who says it would strengthen the military and the country. >> when i fly into bethesda to visit wounded warriors, and when i've gone to arlington to bury our dead, there is no distinction that's made between the sacrifices of men and women in uniform. they served, they're wounded and they die right next to aech each each. >> senator john mccain supported the decision. >> the right thing to do. i support it. i just want us all to make sure that standards, particularly the physical standards are met, so that the combat gee efficiency are not degraded. but it's time to do that. the woman have proven their contributions. >> 152 women have died serving this nation in iraq and afghanistan. >>> a day after being grilled, hk returned to hill this time to introduce t

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i think a guy like joe manchin can win the day in west virginia. ty magazines, as joe and i have talked an awful lot since newtown. as joe said, i've been hunting my entire life in west virginia, all my buddies i grew up with have been hunting in virginia my entire life. we have never gone "into the woods" with more than five or six bullets. you don't need them. >> let me give you a snapshot, i'm standing in the stands interviewing the governor of illinois and joe manchin walks over and talks about what they can do post newtown in the middle of the inaugural ceremonies when the president was in the middle of his speech and talk about what is possible. this has changed everything. children are involved and we're all thinking about the children. >> with regards to reasonable restrictions, one of the things that happens, the muscle of the argument has atrophied just because nobody has said it, nobody has been forthright about it. if you have senator manchin out there, that says, look, with these reasonable regulations, this is what i believe, this is w

i don't think joe manchin will be there despite his conversations s.schumer going to do it and if it'sguy you can kill the bill right up front? who is going to be the country boy or country woman who says this is going to be reasonable and let's have a majority vote for it? >> you're right. the crucial thing, particularly in the senate, we need some republicans or non-of the traditional characters. schumer and feinstein, boxer, you know, those folks are going to be there. we need mark kirk in illinois to make this an issue. he voted for closing the gun show loophole and he's in the house. we need dan coates back in the senate from indiana. if we can get a few of those republicans to stand up and say, hey, this isn't taking your guns away. this isn't a second amendment issue. this is a public safety issue, a law and order issue that will help our communities, then i think we can get it done. >> will you get any votes in the south? any votes in the south, any votes in the rocky mountain states, any votes out there in conservative country, utah, montana, idaho? >> yeah. we can get some in

vice president joe biden and west virginia's joe manchin helped senator kirk slowly ascend the 45 steps of the ceremonial staircase that leads to the senate floor. [ applause ] >> reporter: the assembled legislators spontaneously broke into applause several times at the return of senator kirk. inside the chamber the vice president administered the oath of office to small groups of the newly elected senators including virginia's tim kaine. >> and that you will faithfully discharge the duties of your office upon which you're about to enter so help you god. >> i do. >> congratulations, senators. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> reporter: later virginia's newest senator mingled with supporters in a reception. tim kaine who worked with a republican dominated legislature as governor of virginia says he's coming to the congress to build bipartisan bridges but with his eyes wide open. >> that means over the next 60 days with a ticking clock on sequester and on the debt ceiling we've got to continue to talk about budget and physical soundness. >> reporter: during the campaign you expressed confiden

. >> reporter: democratic senator joe manchin doesn't support a ban and worried congress is too divided to compromise on this issue. >> it's almost guilt by conversation that i can't even sit down and have an open conversation and dialogue without someone saying, well you've changed. >> reporter: new york senator kirsten gillibrand says now is the time to act. >> i'm optimistic. we have people on our side and might bring washington together. >> reporter: gillibrand says she will introduce her own legislation next week targeting gun trafficking. tara mergener for cbs news, capitol hill. >>> and the pentagon has officially lifted its ban on women in combat. today defense secretary leon panetta finalized the historic change. the new policy will open up more than 200,000 front line jobs to women mostly in the army and marines. >> the burden used to be we would say why should a woman serve in a particular specialty? now it's why shouldn't a woman serve in a particular specialty? >> the changes will not come overnight. the new policy will be phased in over the next three years. >>> if you're

i don't think joe manchin is going to be there despite his conversations.s schumer going to do it? if it's a big city guy, you can kill the idea right up front. who is the country boy or country woman who will do this thing? let's get a majority vote for it? who's going to do that? >> you're right. i think the crucial thing, particularly in the senate, is we need some republicans or some none of the traditional characters, schumer and feinstein, boxer, you know, those folks will be there. we need mark kirk in illinois to make this an issue. he voted for closing the gun show loophole when he was in the house. we need dan coats back in the senate from indiana. he voted for some of these things in the early' 90s. if we can get a few republicans to stand up and say, this isn't taking your guns away, this isn't a second amendment issue, this is a public safety issue, a law and order issue, it will help our communities, then i think we can get it done. >> will you get any votes in the south? >> but it's going to take illinois and indiana pushing. >> any votes in

joe manchin is a red state democrat.s a governor, a very sensible guy, but he is a democrat, no? >> we want you to join our conversation online. tweet your comments on any of our top talker stories. @morni @morningmika or @joenbc. >>> still ahead, john barrasso, jane harman, hall of fame quarterback john elway and writer and director of the film "silver linings playbook," david o. russell. up next, jim vandehei with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, the latest on the frigid temperatures outside. bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> i think, mika, get to day two or three, your body gets used to it. the winds around as bad as yesterday. first things first, look out the window down through virginia, i'm sure the ground is covered. you got some snow last night. only picked up about a dusting to two inches in most areas. coastal maryland picked up as much as three or four. it's just about over with. hopefully the sidewalks will brush off easily. it's a light, fluffy snow. give yourself a little extra

west virginia democratic senator joe manchin, after newtown, questioned the right to own assault weapons. now manchin says he's disappointed that the president did not recommend the creation of the national commission on mass violence. the president of the nra wants the focus on the shooters. >> we need to find ways to get at the root causes of this kind of violence and keep firearms with ten-round magazines, 20-round magazines, whatever, out of the hands of the kinds of people who involve themselves in this kind of activity. and they are invariably severely mentally ill. >> reporter: but the nra is resisting universal background checks. >> if you can get a record of who owns fire arms, the government could force them to sell guns back to the government. that's basically confiscation. >> reporter: a more emotional debate, but not more agreement, at least not yet, despite the massacre at the school. and america remains divided. today's nbc news/"wall street journal" poll finds that the nra has not lost support. since newfound 41% approval, 34% disapproval. steve handlesman, news4. >>> is