up first joe manchin and democrats. he said this on sunday on cbs face the nation. >> if people are trying to stop something from doing so much good thinking somebody else will get credit. let's see how it plays out and let you know later. right now i have no intentions of changing anything. >> bill: you believe him. you think he is staying put where he is. >> i do. look, the reality, bill, is that joe manchin has always been an independent senator. he doesn't really need to change parties to prove that point. i think what this is more about, bill, is that joe manchin voted for the inflation reduction act. there are a lot of clean energy, green provisions in that bill that aren't popular in a very conservative energy-rich state like west virginia. joe manchin is up for re-election in 2024. he will have a tough race if he runs for re-election and trying to show he is more independent but look, the democratic party in west virginia is the one democratic party where joe manchin is conservative enough he can still win the n

a democratic senator joe manchin talked to fox news. he says the biden administration has to take this seriously. take a listen. >> i'm encouraging the administration, let secretary mayorkas do his job. he will do it. i guarantee, he will do it. he's tough. he can do it. but he has to have the green light and he's not gotten it. that's my evaluation. >> in two weeks from today, title 42 is set to expire. multiple border patrol sources tell us that you can expect a tsunami, a surge on top of a surge when that happens. right now we're averaging 6 to 7,000 illegal crossings every day. dhs' own worst of the worst when title 42 drops, they could see 18,000 illegal crossings in a single day. that would be nearly tripling of the current record levels that we're at right now, neil. back to you. >> neil: wild. thanks, bill, for that. brandon judd is with us right now. the national border patrol council president. brandon, so much to get into with you here. the first thing that hit me is this continued surge at the border. now it's escalating. of

less joe manchin a little bit but certainly more kyrsten sinema.n almost sounds like she is saying right now. she wants to be that voice and the room that is completely independent and you know, democrats must hate that. because now they have lost one trip for them. so we have two independence and a socialist and a bunch of democrats on one side and a bunch of republicans on the other. it narrows that majority but it brings the board, ainsley unpredictability. if voters love that because now more than 40% of americans are identify as independent spirit so she is brilliant to do this in a state like california and smooth in the state becomes purple, not blue or red. she is right where she needs to be in position right there. that puts a lot of pressure on people like mark kelly and others because there is no term limit and i assume she will run again. >> ainsley: what do you want to say, tomi but joe manchin has to make a decision because his approval rating before he voted for the inflation reduction act was in the 70s but now in the 30s. he didn't

so my guess is joe manchin will continue to be joe manchin. e wants to run for re-election that's going to be good enough for him to beat any republican we put up anyway. >> democrats, sigh of relief. >> joe has to decide whether he's going to run again, right, so that's the interesting thing there. he's not going to become a republican, he's going to continue to do what he's always done, which is speak his mind and, you know, drive at deals like the inflation reduction act, so when you look at the whole dynamics of the senate right now, it really -- when you say you don't want to going to do with subpoena power, senator warren talked about subpoenaing jared and ivanka to talk about the saudi deal. >> you may see that, rachel, i want to go back to georgia and herschel walker's loss, he did worse now in this runoff than he did in november. >> yeah, and the one thing that i was watching for was whether or not that endorsement from brian kemp was going to help him in this runoff election, now, remember, he did worse, he underperformed where brian

david, quickly, what do you lose when you lose joe manchin?did go along with the so-called inflation reduction act. you don't really know how he will go. >> democrats are a big party and big tent. joe manchin has proven to be independent, to push his party, to force debate and compromise. that's healthy for the democratic party and healthy for the country. one thing that joe manchin understands and knows is pressure. he has been under consistent pressure. i don't think we'll see any knee jerk reactions from joe manchin. if he runs, he wins. i believe he runs as a democrat. >> harris: it is interesting you say all that and getting ready with the big spending bill, he is not pushing back on anything. he is going with the flow. that is going to cripple us with inflation yet again because it is spending money, spending money, spending money. a website laid out possible pickup opportunities for republicans in 2024 claiming democrats will have an uphill battle in the senate. in addition to west virginia the senate seat there other seats that could g

nobody thinking about running against joe manchin.in west virginia anymore. >> dana: he is vulnerable in his re-election as a democrat in west virginia? i know he is very popular there. >> absolutely. this is a state that donald trump carried by, you know, i think 20 plus points. so yeah, he is in trouble in a general election in west virginia. what's interesting to me he commented on the two republicans already talking about running. one a congressman whom he said is just trying to advance in politics and the incumbent republican governor jim justice who he said if he ran against me he would be running because he wanted to do the right thing for west virginia. an interesting observation. already picking one candidate in the republican primary to oppose him. >> bill: we mentioned the final race is in the for the house. we found the study about younger voters voting less for democrats. i will show you. you have a white board. for 2022, 53% of those americans age 30 and under nationwide voted for the democratic house candidate. compare

for a long time, he's never going to be a republican in my view, i think joe manchin is a democrat, way back to his mom and dad, he's a different kind of democrat than the washington democrats today. six years ago he showed he's a very formidable candidate. so my guess e is joe manchin will continue to be joe >> democrats, sigh of relief. >> joe has to decide whether he's going to run again, so that's the interesting thing there, he's not going to become a republican, he'll continue to do what he's always done, which is speak his mind and, you know, drive a deal like the inflation reduction act, the whole dynamics of the senate right now, it really -- when you say you don't want to going to do with subpoena power, senator warren subpoenaed to jared iv iva ivanka deal. >> you may see that, rachel, i want to go back to georgia and herschel walker's loss, he did worse now in this runoff than he did in november. >> the one thing i was watching for was whether or not that endorsement from brian kemp was going to help him in this runoff election, now remember, he did worse, he underperfor

reporter: does this mean that you are calling joe manchin. senator schumer: manchin and sinema are very valuable and don't agree with us on certain issues but contributing members to our caucus and will continue to work with us. reporter: now that you have more control over committees do you anticipate taking over the investigations happening in the house -- senator schumer: not speculating about the next congress. we have to sit down and talk to our members and figure out the directions we want to go in. reporter: you spoke about the speed and ease and ease for judicial nominees. do you think biden will put more progressive nominees? senator schumer: the nominees he has put forward are very progressive and far cry from these trump nominees who are hard right and if we continue in the same correction we had the last two years, i will be happy, the caucus will be happy and most important america will be happy. reporter: do you see the investigations that you will be doing in the next congress is a counter balance that you are expecting to get f

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we begin with west virginia democratic senator joe manchin. he is in charleston.ood morning to you, senator. >> good morning, margaret. how are you? >> i'm doing well. i'm glad you could join us. you wrote this letter to president biden this week, saying there would be a complete loss of operational control at the southern border once title 42 ends in about three days. so, what more can the administration be doing? and what can congress deliver in the coming days? >> well, let me just say, the border, we have a crisis at the border. everyone can see that. i think everyone realizes something has to be done. 42 needs to be extended until we can get really, truly immigration reform. immigration reform will not happen in our country until we all come, both sides of the aisle, republicans, democrats and administration, that you have to have total border security. >> the courts ordered 42 to be struck down. >> i understand that. the president needs to use every bit of power he has as an executive to find a way or ask for an extension. the president can basically, i thin

job protecting your incumbents, looking ahead to a 2024, are you confident that jon tester and joe manchin will be running for rewill election? >> we have great senators, we have a large number who are up, you know, republican-leaning states. but, look, they're great candidates, and we're going to do everything we can to help them. yes. >> you talked about, talked about vice president harris having a little more time on her hands, not having to run to the capitol -- >> well, she has plenty to do, believe me. >> but does this also mean now your phone won't be constantly -- [inaudible] you have that 51st, that changes the power dynamic. >> joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are great numbers of our caucus, they're very valuable. they don't always agree with us, but they are tremendous contributors to our caucus, and we'll continue to work with hem -- [inaudible conversations] >> now that you of do have subpoena power, more control over committees, do you anticipate taking the mantel of any of the investigations happening in the house now that house democrats -- >> not speculate aring about the n

we have a chance with joe manchin.50/50 split and joe manchin carries weight and is a reasonable person we can work with. chuck schumer unfortunately is not. ashley: last one for you. president biden finally admitting problems with his inflation reduction act, i will get your thoughts. >> president biden: look, the united states makes no apology and i make no apology since i wrote it for the legislation you are talking about. but there are occasions when we write a massive piece of legislation and that has almost 360 billion for the largest investment in climate change in all of history. obviously there's going to be glitches in it. ashley: at least he is admitting mistakes. >> there are plenty to admit in the inflation reduction act, not the least of which, being a pharmacist i have to mention the precip and drug portion of this was simply awful. cbos told us that portion of the bill would result in 15 fewer cures coming to market over the next 30 years as a result of this policy. hopefully we can turn that back in th

more legs joe manchin or kyrsten sinema. we got the politics of bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. which was a really of capitol investment. plus all of these spending gave us inflation. at least i think were not going to get much change on the progressive policy regulatory size. the hope is that house republicans will stall the sustained high spending that is killing the economy. paul: thanks and we come back divided government returns to washington with the public incentive to control the house next week is a gridlock on the horizon or are their chances for compromise? our panel previous the hundredyo 18th congress,u' next. the exam alone is worth... 59 bucks. i mean, people deserve breaks, right? yeah, brakes...! [out of control] book an exam today at americasbest.com. at booking.com, finding perfect isn't rocket science. kitchen? sorted. hot tub, why not? and of course, puppy-friendly. we don't like to say perfect, but it's pretty perfect. booking.com, booking.yeah. as a business owner, your bottom line is always top o

the joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are both opposed to it. but the other elephant in the room, talking about democrats increasing a majority in the senate, the house will still be in republican hands, making legislating increasingly difficult for democrats. largely because democrats are able to send a messaging bill from the senate to the house, unlikely because of the filibuster and the lack of votes to take away the filibuster, it would likely not move in the house because of the gop majority there. some procedural things will be different and certainly things like nominees will be easier in the senate but casting legislation for democrats will be a large hurdle. host: in a general sense, i don't know if you cover this directly, but do you know if we will have a result the night as far as who wins? guest: i believe that remains to be seen. as you know recently voting has taken longer in terms of absentee ballot. i know myself i will be watching the returns in eagerly awaiting the answer as to who wins the race. host: you can find her work a

could joe manchin of west virginia be next? we have his comments from earlier today. the new york time social security calling this guy, pennsylvania's trust fund brat in a hoody, the one we were talking about, yes, one of the most stylish people in america. we will weigh in in a unique way. but first, we begin tonight with the big guy. joe biden. that's how joe was identified by his son's business partners in communications found on the hunter biden lap top from hell. in fact, hunter's partners mentioned the plan to set aside 10% for the big guy. these emails referenced by "the wall street journal" and "the new york post" and "the washington post" and new york magazine and almost every other outlet in the country in america reveal a highly unethical get rich quick scheme where the biden family collected millions of dollars from sketchy foreign nationals all over the world, using hunter, who had pretty much zero experience to lead the way. now, keep in mind, shady foreign nationals, they weren't say paying millions of dollars for hunter's business expertise. he was we

live assistant to former president trump and jonathan, former communications director for senator joe manchin. jonathan, bill, thanks for being here. lot happening on twitter. i've been the reporter in the past few days. so much to unpack but let's go right to what's what's seems to be a big part of it is did jack dorsey lie when he said before congress under oath that they did not shadow ban people. we know from the reporting that the twitter executives like dorsey in the head of safety yoel roth and others called it visibility filtering and just not shadow banning. here we are in the last hour we had lawmakers on we talked to congressman from tennessee. here is what he said about whether or not dorsey lied. take a listen. >> obviously what was told and testified to four years ago was not true and that should concern every american. >> bill. >> look, i think that twitter has a problem. we have only seen a small amount of documents and they've locked and think about the other documents that a company files both with fcc and sec cases where they filed affidavits and it's all of the documents a

>> absolutely agree senator joe manchin.u look at secretary mayorkas he worked under secretary jeh johnson. and he learned from him it's got a lot of career people that are ready to do their job. the problem as it got to get that green light from the white house. with all due respect listening to immigration activists is one thing you've got to listen to the men and women in green and blue at the border. especially you've got to listen to the border communities where i live. that is listen to the mayors of the county judges the sheriffs the police chiefs and all the folks at land owners who lived on you are's got to listen to them. neil: we do not with the administration's plan is in less than two weeks when title 42 goes away. so i can only rely on you congressman to say what you would want. what would that be? >> i am hoping title 42 will stay on for a while longer. before he got title 42 we had another process called title eight. still the law. title viii can work it just takes a little longer and cost a lot more money, a

senator joe manchin dodge knowledge questions about his future with the democratic over the weekend. he is the party's only centrist senator following sinema who excited recently. manchin was asked if he would follow in her footsteps and declare himself an independent. >> why are you staying a member of this tribe if it's so toxic? >> i don't really put too much validity in the identity of being republican and democrat. we're all americans. >> do you see an advantage in this environment to becoming unaffiliated and becoming an independent. >> i have no intention to change anything. i don't think the democrats have all the answers and i don't think the republicans are always wrong. and vice versa. >> harris: jason chaffetz. great to have you in "focus." what are your thoughts and experience as the former oversight chairman on the hill for when you don't pick a side and manchin has every right to do that. what do you make of it? >> well, it is very politically convenient. the problem is the first vote is are you going to support chuck schumer to be the majority leader? he can try to sno

its fate largely decided by one democrat aed senator, west virginia's joe manchin. >> you are done.s is a no. laura: he would eventually sign off on the president's legislative agenda, but only after securing about $1 trillion worth of cuts, including the extension of the more generous credit. joe manchin and republicans argue parents could live off the government and added cost would intensify inflation. he demanded a work requirement, ground the rest of his party refused to give, until now. democrats are hoping to sell mansion a watered-down expansion. >> our caucus feels very strongly the child tax credit should be there as long as there are some corporate tax breaks and so far we don't have agreement from republicans. laura: some conservatives appear open to a deal. >> i have a number of concerns about the way inflation -- laura: he says the expansion and previous iterations are overly generous to those who are not in desperate need. >> the question is not whether or not the way the credit was structured would be expected to reduce employment. the answer is yes. the right questi

>> joe manchin is a democrat. it's not going to change parties.come a republican. not going to happen. he'll be entering this election year, the 2022 phase, as the most vulnerable endangered democrat in the senate. remember, he was the consequential vote that allowed them to pass the reckless tax and spending bill that got us 87 now new irs agents. he's not as radical as the radical bunch of democrats, but he's decided that that's the bed he's decided to lie in. >> neil: senator, thank you very much. i threw a lot at you there. hope you have a merry christmas. >> thank you. >> neil: senator barrasso. again, so much we don't know about the possible government shutdown. we'll explore tomorrow. here's "the five." >> hello, everyone. i'm dana perino, along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, j jesse watters, and grg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> all right, check it out, check it out. looking like live at a bahamas courthouse where disgraced ftx founder sam bankman-fried could come out any moment. the fallen crypto k

she's proven her independence, much like joe manchin.y, someone has formally joined the ranks of independents, who do you think it is? i probably would have said manchin followed by sinema. the two of them exhibit such control in the senate because everyone needs to come to them to cut a deal. i think it's wise for her because it places great power in her hands. >> i was asking kaitlan what she thought and i wonder what you feel, this feels from someone who's not a d.c. insider different from bernie sanders and angus king who caucus with the democrats and are pretty reliable. do you think it's different? >> totally different. i think most americans don't regard senator sanders as an independent because we're used to seeing him run for president as a democrat. remember in the recent election, evan mcmullen ran as an independent in utah, put up a good showing but was unsuccessful. there was a question of this and i asked it of evan, okay, you're going to be an independent but will you caucus with either party because if you don't won't you

i think joe manchin is in the same place.ll continue to get him reelected in west virginia. that's a problem for progressive legislation going through but if joe manchin tomorrow woke skpup -- up and decided he was an independent, he would be the same degree of problem that he is now, and sinema, the same thing. so i think, you know, they are a problem for democrats in a narrowly divided senate. they're a problem in what they believe in. what they label themselves as is the lest of the problem, the biggest part of the problem is their obstinacy on issues that are considered mainstream in the democratic party now. >> john heilemann, thank you very much for being on this morning. and coming up, while the nation's health care system is strained by soaring cases of covid, flu, and rsv, fentanyl overdose is emerging as a leading cause of death for american adults. we'll check in with a top health expert on the growing opioid epidemic next on "morning joe." d epidemic next on "morning joe. real-time ticket upgrade! meaning... i get

she voted with the party a little bit more than joe manchin did. % of the time. manchin was close to 60%. sinema was closer to 70%. she said people would be surprised by this decision. i'm not exactly surprise. because she was the second most moderate democrat in the united states senate. she was frequently a little bit of a thorn in the side of leadership both in the house. and then when she joined the united states senate. >> right. but they're all trying to -- senator schumer today, oh, nothing to see here, it's all cool, we got our committees. you know, okay. but if her record before was only 70%, what's going to happen now? i mean, i guess the way to look at that -- you know, you've been looking at joe lieberman who was a democrat, switched to be an independent. what happened when he made that switch? did that voltting with the part number go up or down? >> he lost the primary. kyrsten sinema's afraid of losing a primary in 2022. and he ran as an independent or a third-party candidate and won re-election. if you look at joe lieberman's record a

we know a lot about joe manchin and his independent streak with the democratic party there. but what's the contours right now of those three states in particular? it's probably the hardest for dems to keep. >> absolutely. those three will be the most difficult for democrats to hold on to because you have three democratic incumbents who have essentially been defying gravity for several cycles, defying the red leaning of their state, joe manchin, john chester in montana. these are popular incumbents in small states. that helps. they are well in tune with their states. they have a record more so than most democratic senators of breaking with their party, especially on rural issues that are important to their constituents. tester has not said he's running again in 2024, am though he sounded confident that he'll win if he does, which could be an indication. joe manchin has not officially announced, but if you look at everything he's done in the past two years, he's been trying to stay close to his constituents. then there's ohio, shared ground. it used to be the quintessential sw

kyrsten sinema, joe manchin, that whole thing changes and includes then that they can get nominees confirmedter and the party a one-seat advantage in the congressional committees evenly split. there are real tangible things to happen for democrats and joe manchin, kyrsten sinema can't single handedly control the agenda if warnock prevails. we're watching breaking news out of new york this hour. trump's companies found guilty on all counts by a manhattan jury. including tax fraud, falsifying business records and conspiracy. the attorney for trump just responding and we'll have more on that in a moment. first, teams covering both the campaigns in georgia tonight, eva is with warnock, jeff zeleny is what walker. i want to start with you, eva. what has the mood been like in the final minutes here before the polls close? >> reporter: well, erin, i will have to say it seems to me from my reporting on the ground that senator warnock, we actually just saw him walk through here in the ballroom area just a few minutes ago and the campaign just seems swagger and enthusiasm going into the runoff than i

this potentially gives joe manchin outsized influence again. and so the question is whether sinema feels more emboldened to vote freely and does joe manchin follow suit? >> i was wondering that. >> he said before he is not going to become a republican but it could put pressure on him to do the same. however, i think because this takes some of the pressure off sinema to do this, it might make it harder for joe manchin to do that. >> van jones, i wonder what you make of this? >> it could be a difference without -- a decision without a difference. three questions you have to ask. who is she going to caucus with, who is she going to support in leadership, and who is she going to vote with? if those three things don't change, the structure of the senate doesn't change that much. but here's the thing, the other independents you have an understanding about who they are and a what they're about. she's more of an enigma. the challenge with democrats with her in the middle of the biggest negotiations for the most important parts of biden's agenda you did

and the the end of joe manchin is dominance over the senate agenda. is cemented by this because of the addition of the new senator from pennsylvania, john fetterman, the senator, the relaxium adding to the democratic majority next year right. it seems like joe manchin has kind of lost a little bit of his power in the house tonight. what about walker's loss for republicans to sign this this is a huge blow. i mean, there's no reason that they should be losing senate races in georgia. >> and the fact that they've now lost three of those races in the space of two years is going to reverberate very strongly in republican circles. a lot of the blame is going to fall for donald trump without his friendship with herschel walker. >> he never runs for office, almost certainly. keep in mind, lots of republicans lined up behind walker as it was october of 2020 one . but what happened to mitch mcconnell himself endorsed walker months to a full half a year before the primary. he got behind herschel walker as well. they believe that he could overcome those flaws and

and joe manchin. the other very moderate, independent democratic senator from west virginia. she votes with them the majority of the time. republicans will try to bend her eye. even if she does stick with democrats, we are still talking about a house majority that is republican and will not pass the vast majority of these democratic priorities. yamiche: it could stop at the house. that brings me to 2024. democrats are already fing an uphill battle. could arizona be easier to pick up for republicans? >> it could. that is what democrats were just thinking about. a lot of people have been saying that she made that decision to become an independent for electoral reasons. she knows she cannot get elected as a docrat. if they were to hypothetically run for a senate race, she would lose by 40 points. democrats would not elect her. he has not been quiet about primarying her. that could make it way more difficult and make it easier to elect a republican to the senate. yamiche: all eyes were on georgia. could that be a blueprint for democrats? >> i believe georgia is a purple state. th

my colleagues senator joe manchin, john cornyn and representative tony gonzalez and i are committed to delivering bipartisan solutions to address this situation. but rich, some might say democrats like manchin and cuellar and the 27 republicans who just signed off on a $1.7 trillion omnibus bill should maybe perhaps look in the mirror. the massive budget bill only includes $60 billion for dhs, which is a $3 billion upgrade from last year. isn't keeping up with inflation. of that chump change our health team found only 60 million will go towards hiring 125cbp officers. 70 million on vehicle inspection systems but $8 hundred million is going to the fema shelter and services program for migrants. a $650 million jump from physical year 2022. >> nearly half a billion dollars for securing the border in countries like egypt and jordan and nothing for our border. nancy pelosi and the democrats solution, increase border patrol agents by 1%. it is absurd. a gross dereliction of duty. >> how republicans are angry about this budget but the white house is blaming republicans in congress for not pas

they need the extra vote to make a difference between relying on warnock or a joe manchin. >> without question. like i said earlier on committee assignments. it is a big deal but they have been split 50/50 on every committee so democrats with the majority give a full majority to take some power away from manchin and sinema and the vice president. >> down pennsylvania avenue for vice president kamala harris. yeah. joe manchin is happy he may not have to be in the line of fire. >>> next, a shake-up in the democratic party calendar could leave iowa behind and treated to images like this from the all-important iowa state fair. >> is it cold? >> it is ice cold and tasty! delicious. going to go well with the pork chop. ve to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: reallyly? >> tech: that's service the way y you need it. >> siningers: ♪ safelite repai, safelite replace. ♪ i brought inin ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uhhhh... here, i'll take that. [woo hoo!] ensure max pro

so for the sake of joe manchin, lets get you up to speed. joining me from atlanta, vaughn hillyard, and trymain lee. >> vaughn, you have this exclusive. tell me a little bit more about what walker's ex said. >> right, i think let's start with how this came to be. the daily beast, roger sullen berger did the initial report when he brought light to light cheryl's story which chronicled her five-year romantic relationship with herschel walker in which that episode you just heard her recount, took place nine months into their relationship. she went on to tell me about why she stayed with him. she particularly talked about dissociative identity disorder which herschel walker acknowledged having, and no longer going through treatment and is okay. but when you hear her talk about the episodes that she endured over the course of those five years, it also is important to understand that herschel walker, dating back to thursday, when the daily beast first published its report, and when i attempted to directly ask him myself at an event on saturday, in

what does this mean, the senate is back to 50/50 split and senator joe manchin is a powerful swing vote not just sinema and manchin it's really on him. stuart: i guess it is with the new balance. david abella is with us is morning. what are the implications of kyrsten sinema being an independent, what does it mean for manchin. >> it's more pressure on manchin but even more pressure on chuck schumer who now has to decide sinema is going to be a loyal vote. angus king is an independent but a loyal vote for democrats. every time schumer has made it about sinema has given it to him. now as we look towards 2024, the box schumer is an, if he doesn't support sinema, the democrats will nominate somebody and make it a three-person race. if he does support sinema then he is democrats in arizona angry with him. all of that to say a three-person race in arizona gives republicans a wonderful opportunity to pick up a senate seat. stuart: that will be in 2024. >> an opportunity to pick up a seat. is any possibility manchin becomes an independent too? >> no. there have been many outreaches to manchin t

change senate rules so that image simple majority could end bay, that's ending the filibuster, but joe manchinrefused to go along. mcconnell boasted that bipartisan deals might have kept manchin and senator sinema from agreeing. what do you think? >> i would agree with that take, chris. i think mitch mcconnell has made a calculation on behalf of the rest of the republican congress, which is that they stand to lose more available as there is eliminated. because they can carry out what little of an agenda they have through the existing senate rules. the main things that senate republicans are for is reducing government regulation, cutting taxes and confirming judges and you can do all three of those things already, with 51 votes in this current senate rules. that's why there's this asymmetry that democrats have in shrinking by getting rid of the filibuster so they can act on the legislative priorities that we have. and just on that point about judges, one of the things we have not talked about, chris, is that this conference was so productive legislatively, for sure. and at the same time they we

joe manchin says that president biden will ask for an extension of this. i don't know. do you think there's a possibility in the next 48 hours that that could possibly happen? >> there's a possibility that it could happen. as far as the folks that are coming across getting the word, they're already on their way. i don't think they're going to stop, turn around and go back home. they've gone way too far with this. they need a real solution and finally fix this. it's way past out of control. anybody that says otherwise is just blind. >> sandra: we're showing this brand new video of a migrant processing center in el paso that bill melugin brought to us. you can see these things are over capacity. there's too many people for the number of people supposed to be in these buildings to begin with. the question to the white house, if the borders are not open, what are they? we see these massive numbers of migrants flowing over the borders let alone drugs mpourin over. what is it then? >> wait for 48 hours and you'll see some numbers coming in. the big question is, is it going to

or form the biggest porkbarrel spending bill gatesis personally lobbied for this bill colleen of joe manchin out bill gates enterprise will beri benefiting. i wouldn't say hundreds of millions, bill gates enterprise. i expect a lot of corruption in this but corruption in washington neverin faze me i always said spending i've long ago quit carrying how much they spend even republicans that push carbon capture and all that i'm knocking a fight that the sense i think it's a waste of money in research into that into the future but they keep pouring money into renewables. that stuff you canct expect outf washington that's expected corruption but what really changed in the last two and h hf years they are a now able to dictate things which previously was unthinkable and that's where the covid emergency power opened up their eyes and i think that's where biden came upen with the climate emergency power in your publication like the uk guardian say we need a global lockdown every twous years in order to mt the u.s. paris climate goals. it's better to give them huge pork rail spending with the usual c

they won't have to rely on senator joe manchin in particular will come their way. that's what democrats are most harmed about, and when there's a possibility of a 50-50 senate again or just the possibility of one vote on an individual issue, having that additional vote is hugely significant in the difference between legislation stalling or legislation failing. >> john berman was just highlighting where walker lost, where warnock really won. one key was black voters in georgia. you spent a good bit of time looking at this before the election. what did you learn here? and what did you learn from black voters? >> yeah, you know, you have this historic race, where there are two african american candidates and, you know, you would think there would be more excitement around that, but you know, some of them were a little, i don't know, uncomfortable with the campaign and walker's candidacy. they didn't feel like he was representing black interests. now, of course, black people tend to vote for democrats at a pretty high rate, but, you know, some of them talked about this

senate majority would also allow democrats to be considerably less reliant on the likes of senator joe manchinst virginia, kristen sinema of arizona. both democrats who have often stymied the party's agenda. -- it would set the party up to better counter whatever comes out of mccarthy's house which, as we have noted on the show before will act absolutely be beholden to the most fringe elements of the party. there's also the fact that democrats face very tough odds to hold -- in two years from now. in the 2024 race they are defending 23 seats, nearly half of their majority, including some really particularly vulnerable democrats in red states like joe manchin in west virginia, jon tester of montana, ohio, an additional seat now would be key for the party to have a hope of holding on to the majority. that's all the reasons democrats in the democratic party really wants this win. then if you step away from that and look at the congressional politics for a moment, this race outcome is also important because of what kind of politics are rewarded by voters and what kind are punished. these incentive

in fact, joe manchin supported zeroing in, and she was a key figure, make sure it didn't happen -- hedgel paid very, very low rates. as well as protecting the big class of drugs, the big pharma was lobbying very hard. are there other areas, like for instance, minimum wage, she famously voted thumbs down on raising it to $15 an hour. there were other specific areas, as you watched her vote for public policy positions, when you objected? when you objected? when you objected? when you objected? when you objected? when you objected? we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe they're just sitting up there! sitting on all this cash. if you own a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more, you can sell all or part of it to coventry. even a term policy. for cash, or a combi

and it relieves pressure of joe manchin to take more democratic or liberal conditions. position.ke those positions now, the head if you, well in order to get reelected the next time around. so actually, this election happening right now with we're not going into the senate helps the democrats in the last couple of years. hold on to seats it also courts keeps them control over committees instead of sharing up with republican so donald trump? i mean the republican party is certainly starting to recognize that he is not helping the party electorally. >> yeah, i'm glad you actually mention that about joe manchin because i do think it is important, you can literally vote no on anything joe biden ever wanted, and democrats can still pass things, and nominate people if that is what they wanted to do. charlie, let me, also ask you about georgia specifically. tonight. because herschel walker made some pretty know where their comments. and what my colleague, jeff zeleny, seems to be an ad libbed concession speech. there was no visible teleprompter being used, or something like that. but th

same could be said about joe manchin. where does that leave him or is west virginia a different different category? >> the next midterm presidential year, 2024, is going to be a year in which a lot of democrats in those kinds of, you know, purplish, reddish states will be up for re-election. joe manchin, sinema, john tester, others. so it will be a tough year for those folks who have to run in states that kind of have red dna. but they themselves might have "d" next to their names. so these challenges that sinema is facing, they are not necessarily unique to her. and i think that it is really just about the kind of sliver of votes that they take that are controversial. you know, 97% of the time she has voted with her party. it is the 3% that really starts to matter. and i think that you will start to see all of those types of kind of what is left of maybe what you would have called in a previous era the blue dogs really trying to excerpt their independence in different ways. this is her way of doing it. there are unique e

they are expected to have the votes to control senate committees and cinemas move means senator joe manchinthe democrat from west virginia, the pivotal swing vote in the 50-50 chamber the past few years will hold onto some but not all of his outside influence in the democratic caucus. cinema would not address whether she will run for reelection in 2024 in this interview and chuck schumer -- and inform chuck schumer of her decision on thursday. she said her closely held decision to leave the party reflects she is never fitting into a box of any political party, a description sea set also applies to her independence day and millions of unaffiliated voters across the country. robin in arizona, democratic caller, robin, did you vote for senator sinema? caller: yes, ma'am, i did. host: your reaction? caller: i'm not surprised. i am almost 65 years old. my roommate is the same age and he has lived here for 35 to 40 years. i'm from texas and we are both -- i'm educated and he has grown up in the educated world, the whole bit, and we watched other hearings and everything and we are so disappointed

switch years ago -- the change of the party label required no courage at all, because as senator joe manchin change anything. kyrsten sinema has voted with president joe biden 93 percent of the time -- in a 50/50 senate, every time you don't vote with your party, it gets noticed, and there are times when it seems that there is nothing more important to senator sinema than being noticed. that might have a lot to do with why kyrsten sinema announced the most meaningless label change in senate history. that's why chuck schumer still says that she is a good senator, and that's why joe manchin said today, it doesn't change anything. with unitedhealthcare my sister has a whole team to help her get the most out of her medicare plan. ♪wow, uh-huh♪ advantage: me! can't wait 'til i turn 65! take advantage with an aarp medicare advantage plan... only from unitedhealthcare. for adults with generalized myasthenia gravis who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies, it may feel like the world is moving without you. but the picture is changing, with vyvgart. in a clinical trial, participants achi

which months ago -- the change of the party label required no courage at all, because as senator joe manchinma has voted with president joe biden 93 tie -- in a 50/50 senate, every time you don't vote with your party, it gets noticed, and there are times when it seems that there is nothing more important to senator sinema then being noticed. that might have a lot to do with why kyrsten sinema announced the most meaningless label change in senate history. that's what chuck schumer still says that she is a good senator, and that's why joe manchin said today, it doesn't change anything. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we support immune function. supply fuel for immune cells and sustain tissue health. ensure with twenty-five vitamins and minerals, and ensure complete with thirty grams of protein. dupixent helps you du more with less asthma. and can help you breathe better in as little as 2 weeks. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that c

and washington, d.c., democratic senator joe manchin because now the democrats don't need all 50 votes that it is 51 to 49 to pass all legislation. interesting effect that it is going to have inashington, d.c. >> absolutely. i think it is a game changer for a number of reasons. one of the most disappointing things that as i voting rights activist and advocate, for me, in this last election cycle, has been the failure of the democrats to pass voting rights legislation. that we need voting rights legislation. what we saw in georgia -- the truth of the matter is, we still had to put an enormous a run of resources and people power to try to offset as much as possible the voter suppression. the truth of the matter is, while i am happy we won, i still maintain we cannot out organize voter suppression. it is unsustainable to continue to see the goalposts removed and we are responsible for that. we're going to have to have federal legislation. i think warnock has been a champion for voting rights. he has been consistently. we need him in the senate to push back on that. i think having that ext

joe manchin, i don't know if he personally benefitted i haven't heard that, but for the inflation reduction act park barrel spending and strong arm. >> and an answer to that is, tom, i'll just say it very simply. mitch mcconnell's wife is chinese, is worth a fortune in china and i'm sure that's relevant to him. and joe biden, we've all gone through, we're not suppose today talk about it anymore, and see, that's the part also, the left demonizes truth. and insists upon a narrative that is their narrative only. so if you want to say, you know, there's election fraud, well, no state is de-certified so in terms of law fair, you can't say that that election was fraudulent, you don't have proof. the idea that the department of justice is there now pursuing a political agenda, the idea of democracy of this globalist crowd to be an eu parliament where no one is really elected by the people, they're selected so therefore, the money coming in is no longer from traditional sources and winning votes and having people back your campaign. >> and i have to say, chao's, family came to the united states, an

what will joe manchin do? whether he will do what his like-minded democratic senator, once democratic senator now independent kyrsten sinema will do, leave the democratic party and become independent. i? ed asked whether he would follow her. he did not shut the door. >> i'll look at all of these things. i'll look at every circumstance and have no intention of doing anything right now. whether i do something later i can't tell you what the future will bring only where i am in my mindset and want to accomplish long as i'm here with the senate. i want to work with her same as before. >> reporter: manchin up for election in 2024, not made a decision whether or not to run again and, of course, if he decided to run as independent a whole range of implications as well, but as you heard right there, certainly not planning do it but not that he won't leading to many more questions ahead. >> once that door opens, apparently. phil, one more for you. the administration, officials had a virtual meeting today with sister of