joe manchin and christian sentiment, and you're alluding to this too. there are two feckless or they feel faultless stomach powerles. >> mollie: it's interesting were talking about one or two senators in the democratic party. kyrsten sinemand joe manchin. there have to be 50 republicans that are holding the line and don't matter at all. the bill is so radical that even really good democrats like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema unable to vote for it. that should be a message to people. they're nowhere near as moderate as they claim to be. at a time of economic uncertainty to do this type of unpopular spending package and adding summary problem which is not flying. >> harris: senator cruz had a whole list of these people who should be more moderate based on what they're always saying what they promised. he said they're nowhere to be found. do you think that joe biden ever thought that he would be talking about squad members and hostages? >> kayleigh: i think he did. >> harris: hostages politically. >> kayleigh: he is the hostage taker. when joe manchin says that you're not going to change his vote by holding it for structure hostage, the president of the united states' response over this. both times he went to the hill he w

need a commitment from the president that he can secure those 50 votes, including from joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. other progresses, including veronica escobar, she said she needs less than that. she just needs joe manchin kyrsten sinema to put out a statement saying they support the package and date will be willing to agree to a vote on the infrastructure bill. there has been some with that is why it does feel like democrats are moving toward some finale, because each side, the progressives and the moderates are starting to give a bit of ground. president biden has said this is a negotiation, you need compromise to get to an agreement. we are starting to see that from both wings of the party. host: if you have questions about how to read what is happening when it comes to these bills, scott wong is your guy. he'll newspaper, senior staff writer. remind us what other deadlines are hanging over these discussions. what should viewers know about those deadlines? guest: there is one big date, december 3. that is when we face the threat of another government shutdown. congress has done a bunch of thes

they are going to change it and then going back to the house, how confident are you, that joe manchin, kyrsten sinemare there other democrats that the vote no on that "build back better" plan that is headed to the senate senator? >> every day that passes, there are more democrats that have more questions. and the cbo score when they came out said well it is 367 billion, and new -- over five years, so joe biden math is totally wrong on this bill you are looking at nearly a trillion dollars worth of debt if they were to pass this, but what they are intent on doing is taking being one vote, and with that one vote, they would push forward their woke the socialist agenda give control of children's educating, the green new deal, account of your bank account and small business this is where they are trying to go. maria: is there anything you want to say about kamala harris, she was given the role of acting president when joe biden got a colonoscopy last week. >> i think when you look at what she has done, she has failed at every task given that is why there are many in white house so frustrated with her, it

senate and two key figures in achieving that are moderates senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema.eting of the mirn minds are there. >> reporter: yeah. that's what lies ahead for democrats. the celebration of passage in the house is brief and momentarily because now he faces the tricky task of muscling the bill through the senate. it's expected that this bill will see changes in the senate in order to get all 50 democrats on board. that means some of the president's top priorities like paid family leave maybe on the chopping block. now, two of the key senators in this debate will be senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema who have each expressed concerns about elements of the bill as well as the price tag. one issue they have is whether the price tag of this, $1m.9 trillion could contribute to inflation down the road but listen to leader chuck schumer. >> everybody knows the house did a very strong bill. everybody knows that manchin and sinema have their concerns, but we're going try to negotiate with them and get a very strong bold bill out of the senate which will then go back to

joe manchin, okay? joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, jon tester and montana, all these guys are supposed to be moderates.essage to them about this giant spending bill they want to think about passing. >> hold to your guns, stay with it. have a backbone of steel, the idea from joe manchin which i think is the best one, inflation means no more government spending. he said let's pause all government spending until inflation might come down next year. so i say no spending until we are well into next year. if that happens with a pause, then i believe the bill will be killed. save america. kill the bill. pause the bill. inflation is going to continue for quite some time. that should be their message. stick to it. stick to it, mr. manchin. stick to it, ms. sinema. stay with it. stay with it. >> laura: save the country. save the dollar. larry, great to see you. >> save america. kill the bill paid >> laura: all right. larry, thank you. great to see you. do not believe this been imposed biden planning among democrats is already underway and they are even more desperate than you think. how so? here's who the democr

everyone and if we don't get there, i can't tell you enough, it is firmly at the feet of joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. joe biden would have signed a much larger package, nancy pelosi would have brought a much larger package to the floor, but these senators really have kept us from -- kept it from being able to be the kind of really transformational legislation that would have addressed any of the things the caller has described. host: and the social spending proposal is slated for a vote before november 15. michael strain, do you agree that this build back better agenda will help the middle class and lower income americans? michael: i am not nearly as enthusiastic about the agenda as heidi is. there are a few provisions in the agenda that i think would be really helpful. but on the whole, i think the build back better agenda would move the country in the wrong direction. to really unpack that, i think you have to look at a lot of the specific provisions and ask yourself, what is the goal of these provisions? the caller spoke about the national debt, spoke about how programs aren't really benefiting p

joe manchin and kyrsten sinema will determine what the bill looks like. there is a process for amendments and you can assure short -- be assured we will have a robust amendment process during the vote aroma -- vote -a-rama. the house knows as well that mansion -- manchin and sinema will write the bill. then, i would observe the challenging exercise for them. i'm glad it is. this is a bill america does not want or need. the ideal solution would be to not pass it, but if it is passed, it will be written by manchin and? /or sinema. >> paid family leave was popular. it does not seem like that will be in the final version. is there any version of the proposal republican senators would support or you would support? should i come up down the line sometime? sen. mcconnell: if i were the majority leader and we would set the agenda, that would be a good discussion to have, but we are not setting the agenda. we are reacting to what they are proposing and that seems challenging for them as well. >> how would you expected to score and how would that affect your progre

joe manchin and kyrsten sinema will determine what the bill looks like. there is a process for amendments and you can ensure we will have a robust amendment process during the photo, but i think we all know, the house knows as well they are going to write the bill. then i would observe challenging exercise for them, i'm glad it is. this is a bill america does not want and does not need. the ideal solution would be to not pass it but if it is to pass, it will be written by mansion and/or cinema. yes? >> one of the most popular polling mind for the pay family leave, it doesn't seemed like i will be in the final version, is there any version of a paid family leave proposal for publican senators would support or you would support should it come up down the line? >> if i were the majority leader and we are setting the agenda, that would be a discussion to have but we are not setting the agenda, we are reacting to what they are proposing and that seems to be challenging for them as well. [inaudible] >> with your mask on, i'm having a hard time hearing. >> the w

but when he gets back expect intense negotiation on bill back better, to people, both kyrsten sinema and joe manchinlmington, delaware, happy thanksgiving to you and your family. >> you to speak to the senate that hurtles the bill back better bill, the white house insisting it will lower cost for families and help millions. one house number that voted no, north carolina republican congressman ted body, a member of the house financial services committee and congressman joins us now. good to see you, no money and no spending could run the financial services committee, the federal budget the president said this a paper itself but you are the c.b.o. says i won't, what is your view? >> is $367 billion of unanticipated expenses that the democrats did not see you, they have been messaging for months that this would cost 0 but now we see the most expensive inflationary thanksgiving and history that this thing has got more uncontrolled spending which will drive up inflation even worse. it takes away the amendments which is kept taxpayers for decades prepaying for taxpayer-funded abortions. it hires 87000 mor

look we might get another bite at apple at this because we are expecting democrats like joe manchin, kyrsten sinemaack take things out change it then goes back to house again they want to get something through maya do you think they will? >> it is tough one to predict right here i think unlikely they don't get it through this calendar year it could happen strong leadership there i think -- he what came out of the house is certainly not going to pass in the senate, there are a lot of reservations, they are more widespread than before sort of top line it was promised would be paid for. it is not. there are definite concerns about budget gimmicks there will be changes in the senate a number of members in the house weren't to pass the bill going to change dramatically but that did happen, but i think they will have o to go back to house, back-and-forth where basically everybody has some leverage because margins, make it really difficult negotiation listen this bill is huge. massive changing in spendsing programs taxes, we should be taking time to debate policy, i would argue that very few people know d

how confident are you that joe manchin and kyrsten sinema will hold the line.emocrats will vote no? on the bill back better plan that is headed to the senate? >> every day that passes, there are more democrats that have more questions. the c.b.o. score when they came out and said it is 367 billion in new debt, deficit spending over five years. joe biden is totally wrong on this bill. you're looking at nearly a trillion dollars worth of debt if they were to pass this but what they are intent on doing is taking one vote. with the one vote they would push forward their woke socialist agenda that would give the federal government control of your kids and education of healthcare, it would force the green new deal and give them control of your bank account, your small business. this is where they are trying to go. maria: is there anything that you want to say about kamala harris, she was given the role of acting president when joe biden got his colonoscopy last week? >> when you look at what she has done, she has failed every task that she has been given. that's why

it is going to embolden people like joe manchin, kyrsten sinema.t do in terms of the trajectory for fiscal policy? tiffany: i think in terms of how the federal reserve thinks about fiscal policy, they sort of incorporate it into their forecast as it happens. in other words, they take it as what economists would call an n exhaustion us variable -- an exogenous variable. given the fiscal policy we have seen over the last couple of years, the fiscal impulse or the change in the fiscal spending we are going to see is still going to be negative next year, and that is going to put downward sure on growth. that is despite the discussion we are seeing in washington around these longer-term investment type of projects. so i don't think it matters on the margin to the fed at this point because in terms of the sort of yearly impact on growth, it is going to be quite small. alix: coming full circle to where we started, maybe there is a fiscal impact, maybe not, but wage and salaries are high. household balance sheets are superstrong. bill dudley wrote a bloomb

social welfare and climate change plan like they did with infrastructure friday night, joe manchin kyrsten sinema will play a leading role over the massive $2 trillion spending plan when congress returns later this month more than 2000 page bill contains new spending for healthcare, education, climate and tax laws one gop senator thinks democrats need to look closer at the election results last week. >> it was a rejection election, voters overwhelmingly across the country rejecting these radical policies of the democrats which have enclosed inflation, open borders and now they want to raise taxes even higher. you would think this would be a wake-up call to the democrats but they are still sleepwalking legs on bees to socialism. >> the president will go to the board of baltimore to tell his infrastructure plan the president said americans will feel the result of the infrastructure bill in the next 2 - 3 months. jon: live in delaware, thank you. the u.s. federal appeals court stop president biden's vaccine and testing mandate for private businesses employing more than 100 people. the ruling with th

and then in the more centrist end of the spectrum, joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, as you mentioned, cting to the price tag. and if you're joe manchin, you have at point very little incentive to cave. you have patiently waited while in the house warring factions in the democratic party sort of worked this out, but now you look at your approval ratings, you're looking at the fact that you are far more popular among your constituents in west virginia than joe biden is and members of congressional leadership, and someone like manchin, their leverage has never been stronger than right now. so i think manchin is going to take his time when it comes to getting this bill narrowed in scope and getting that price tag down. and because of those margins in the senate, democrats are going to have to concede to a lot of his demands. arthel: so how much work does president biden have cut out for him next week? aside, you know, we've got manchin and sinema, who else does he have to pitchesome. >> yeah, i mean, biden's role here is really complicated because when it comes to his sort of sales pitch t

said they were going to fulfill and the fact they actually could do it, when you see this joe manchin, kyrsten sinemabiden's agenda and they are democrats what does that say to the people that voted for them. like we put y'all in ostlesz to thep our interests but now you got two of your own blocking your interests. trump would never allow that. it. >> trevor: that is true. >> do you think we allow two people in his party, he would have nicknames for them, he would be mad at you for correcting il him on the first name. >> no sinema. >> yeah, so i'm concerned. >> trevor: okay. >> i really am concerned. >> trevor: i will tell people to watch your show but i haven't been invited to it. >> i would love to have you on. >> trevor: i. >> i don't know how the comedy central pot protocol workings. >> trevor: now there is protocol, has there ever been protocol. you text me random things, now there is protocol. >> no, i would love to have you on. >> trevor: i appreciate it, thank you so much for being here. all right, the god's honest truth with charlamagne the god is friday at 10 p.m. on comedy central and stre

senators joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, they will take issue on everything from paid leave to corporate tax provisions, other key elements being trimmed back might include climate change and lowering prescription drug costs. aoc put out a letter that reads this, talking about this. the president and house leadership have promised that build back better will still pass. we hope they're right. how much of the bill survives now that we've given away so much leverage is the question. also congress woman iana na presley echoing that. >> neil: thanks, aishah. so where does it stands right now with so many moderate democrats still insisting before we see that cbo score, nothing will happen. we have to see the cbo score. obviously this delays things a bit. if it pans out that way. franchesca chambers joins us. great having you back. how big an impediment is this? it pushes things back, we get close to the debt ceiling time, the government shutting lights off, all of that drill. where are we? >> that line as you pointed out, neil is december 3. democrats absolutely would like to see the second p

claim to be moderates, warner, virginia, showed up yesterday, hadn't seen him in months but joe manchin, kyrsten sinema. don't they need to start listening to their constituents and our their constituents clamoring for a climate core and 75,000 more irs agents and all the other things that go along with it? >> no, laura but that is why there really aren't any moderate democrats left in the congress. there are only vulnerable democrats and some of those, you mentioned, are up for reelection this year. others in states like arizona, nevada, georgia in new hampshire that i can't imagine are very eager to vote on this mismatch of democratic priorities. look at the house of representatives. you've got democratic congressman from virginia and new jersey who if they were on the ballot last night would have lost their seats. nancy pelosi -- >> laura: sorry, go ahead. >> go ahead, laura. they do what nancy pelosi said in the years after obamacare. after the 2010 election when republicans had a historic victory that it was worth losing the house to pass obamacare. that is the way she feels now and she's talking

if leslie thinks that the credit problem is that joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have not gone for farugh to the left, they will lose every race they are engaged in for democrats to would not have a mandate. it is not a popular piece of legislation. when the polling came back from fox news saying that the economy was number one issue and democrats are out there saying we are going to raise taxes, good luck, democrats, keep doing that! that is not how you grow the economy. ciattarelli was out there talking about choice, schools, freedom, liberty. made all the right choices. you know what? we had a strong hispanic on the ballot in virginia, a strong african-american on the ballot, had a strong of an editorial candidate, plus the house of delegates. it's a winning formula. >> plus five for the g.o.p. in the house of delegates and as you mentioned, historic wins for african-americans and hispanics in the commonwealth. thank you as always, we appreciate it. more from you folks later. i just have to say it, this is one of the best nights of the year because is what democracy is all about. fi

because i speak to my g-20 colleagues in the senate including joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, two courageously people. there's a lot going on behind the scenes here. we've taken the hard infrastructure out, we've taken that on the fence and recaptured unusele covid relief money, including recaptured unusele state unemployment augmentation at $300 a week, benefit addition that came back from a lot of the states. we don't open the tax code in this bill. so what the they're left with on reconciliation is social or human infrastructure as they refer to it and tax increases. joe and kirsten will do their job now that this hostage has been removed because the progressives were holding our bipartisan bill hostage so that they could gain leverage or joe and kirsten on the reconciliation package. that hostage has been removed. joe and kirsten can do what is best for our country now. >> neil: let me ask you quickly. kevin mccarthy was among the very critical republicans that voted for this. i'm wondering in the mid-term elections, does he run to be your leader again in the house, presumably republicans

i am so sick of joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. it is so annoying. it is 24/7. they have so much power and i can't listen to them anymore. ridiculous. >> joe manchin may be the only person in the senate for whom coal in the stocking is a good thing. >> by the way your writers are awesome. i thought it was brilliant. >> no stealing the writers on this show. they are all very happily employed here. i can speak for them on that front. listen, i wanted to ask you about the democrats here. they've taken a beating throughout these negotiations. people have described it as infighting amongst themselves. it is not to give republicans a pass. they don't want anything to do with this. they don't want to touch it. that is how people are focusing on how do the democrats get this across the finish line. you have politico reporting on a democratic group that ran focus groups in virginia and found voters could not articulate what democrats stand for and what they are doing in washington besides this infighting. do you think any of that will change if and when biden's build back

we will be watching the vote tonight and we will see what joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have to say.way, reince, you could have written "the chief's chief," you were a chief before mark was chief, and mark beat you to it so i don't know what that means but i will let you guys fight it out and figure it out. >> i'm waiting for my day to write my big book. >> sean: oh, great. just don't mention my name. i mentioned in every other book. guys, good to see you both. >> a chapter on mark meadows. >> sean: oh, okay, can't wait to read it. by the way, mark's book is coming out if you want a first edition copy go to amazon.com. it will be in bookstores soon. when we come back, the left and the media have peddled countless lies about kyle rittenhouse. we are going to give you the most egregious examples as miranda devine and leo 2.0 terrell will join us. we are glad you are with us. ♪ ♪ >> sean: and tonight we continue to monitor the house floor, where a vote on biden's build back new green deal socialist spending bill is expected to happen within minutes now. we will bring it to you live, but

been holding up final package of the infrastructure bill because they have been demanding joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, they get behind the separate larger bill that has been under negotiation for months. what jayapal said is she and her progressive caucus are no longer going to sit and wait and demand that joe manchin and sinema say they will be a yes. instead they're going to let joe biden make that determination himself, and do what the president promised him, that he will get the two senators to vote for the bill. she said, i trust the president. that's a sign, no longer will they be pushing for that. they plan to vote yes, that means final passage on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan, awaiting action in the house since august. if they vote yes, that will go to joe biden's desk, and she is indicating they will. once they finalize the negotiations over that larger bill, and by all counts, they are moving forward on those negotiations. the larger bill, $1.75 trillion was released late last week. behind the scenes there have been a lot of discussions about making changes including dealing with pr

been in touch as the bill made its way through the house and now comes to the senate where joe manchin, kyrsten sinemam as a part of this larger ongoing discussion. but, you know, i think it's a very important point to say here that president biden clearly is no socialist. is he no bernie sanders he is not even elizabeth warren calling for more regulation of banks to help consumers because jay powell has been opposed that. that of nominee, the markets went up as a result. and i think what you are going to see from joe biden going forward with jay powell's help is talk about the fact that this administration and this control of the fed has led to 5 million new jobs record in calendar year. you have seen the stock market grow 25% in this year, which is amazing. and we have seen g.d.p. now forecasted it's going to be five percent which would be the most since 84. >> bret: also we saw inflation 31 year high and a lot of people, juan, looking at joe biden as a candidate and what he legislatively is pushing saying that he is far more left than he was on the campaign trail. speaking of left. here is alexandr

joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are doing exactly what they are supposed to do.ou are not just a senator or representative for the estate, you are that the country and they know these bills are going to harm america because we are not going to be able to pay them or it will put us in a bind or there won't be social security in 2026 and they are doing the right thing. people say child care, child care. well, there's pre-k. there's all kinds of programs for children. many daycare's get paid to keep children. they just don't tell you the truth. they put the triggers in their to make people want to buy into what they are doing without telling them the truth. host: dana, flint, michigan, good morning. caller: i want to raise a red flag. russia is still involved in the elections. i have seen the polls on tv that are just ridiculous. our cable, comcast? trump called it con cast last year. women's, as women, blacks, gays, discriminated against. the channels i cannot get, the movie networks, the other networks, we just need to, we need to do some recounting on the votes.

though, this is all about the personalities that we have been focused on in washington, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, we know that activists have continue to follow them, even though they have no longer been physically here on the hill for about a day or so, but this pressure is only going to continue. recess week is good for them wet, they are probably going to use is time to do quite frankly, is go home and start telling this to their districts because so far the message has been process, process, process. you're not really so much when your flame process. instead it's, now on democrats to sell what they've actually done here, the tunnels that they're going to build, the bridges of the going to bolster, with the infrastructure bill they already passed, and with the social spending package that they're hoping to make progress on around thanksgiving and the wing acts after that. >> diplomacy like that, you could cover the state department, go have the beverage of your choice ali batali, thank you for staying up late with us and covering the story so beautifully tonight at the capitol. ali vitali, ar

key monarch democrats joe manchin, kyrsten sinema. they will have a say in what happens next. we're going to get into how they could still dramatically alter the final text. >>> also the fda just green lit the pfizer and moderna shots. the cdc gearing up for a critical meeting. we'll dig into what the crucial decision could mean for your holiday plans. >>> also this morning, we are on day four now of the verdict watch in the kyle rittenhouse homicide trial. we'll go live to kenosha, wisconsin in moments. is not one but two requests for a mistrial now hang over this case. but we're going to start with our team covering the major vote on the build back better bill. our capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell, and also shannon petty piece is with us. leigh ann, a major victory for democrats, but the bill still needs to pass the upper chamber. first, what made the final cut in this bill? >> this is a massive piece of legislation. these are, the makeup of this bill is what democrats have been wanting to do for years. and individual pieces of legislation, but it was compiled i

now though, it's all about the personalities they've been focused on in washington, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, we know activists of that continue to follow them. even though they haven't been here on the hill for a day or so. but this pressure is only going to continue. recess week is good for them. but they are probably going to use this time to do, frankly, is go home and sell it to their districts. because the right now the message has been process, processed, process. you're not sign much when you're sane process. right now it's up to democrats tell what they've actually done here. the tunnels that they're going to build, the bridges that they're going to bills there with the infrastructure bill that they've already passed. and with the spending package that they're hoping to make progress on during thanksgiving and in the weeks after that. >> with diplomacy like that you can come to the state department, thank you for example a with us and covering the story so beautifully tonight at the capitol. ali vitali are women on the hill. don calloway remains with us tonight, democratic strategis

you mention those two names joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, those folks are going to be pivotable to what's happening here, the christmas bear break starting december 13th, you realizing there's not a whole lot of time. here's what representative job all told us about negotiations with the democratic party. >> we work this out on our own, the president of course helped. this is really important to our discussion, but really this was about can we look each other in the eye and start to reestablish trust. because, that is going to be essential for everything else we need to do. >> but that reestablishing of trust is really difficult when members of congress don't even know with fellow members of congress want with this legislation. we saw this with ebi f, the bipartisan infrastructure framework negotiations where kyrsten sinema was negotiating directly with the white house not her fellow members, and her fellow members weren't sure where she even stood. it's one thing for us reporters to not know, but tell members need to know to have legislating have been properly. >> absolutely, how

joe manchin as well. >> don, he's done a lot already. intensive diplomacy with both kyrsten sinema of arizona, joe manchin of west virginia. i think the obstacles to enactment of this bill are not as great as they're sometimes described. most of this bill has been agreed to already. there are going to be changes in the senate. it is likely that manchin will insist on, for example, the paid leave provisions coming out of this bill. but in a very substantial form resembling what passed the house today, i think it is highly likely that passes the senate, both democratic leaders in the senate and white house officials are confident that they've got those 50 votes prepared to go. that doesn't mean there won't be some skirmishing at the end and some back-and-forth. anytime you've got zero margin for error, any single person can hold it up. but i think the expectation is that joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, the two most obvious holdouts, are not going to hold it up for all that much, and this is likely to pass either before christmas or soon after that. >> all right. we shall see. john ha

so with joe manchin, kyrsten sinema and in some other democrats, they've got to get the bill under controlesting way that you that they are. this is a house democrats letter urging the senate to ignore the parliamentarian. the role of the parliamentarian is an advisory one and the parliamentarian opinion is not binding. one need look no further than the previous scores for the same proposal to know that providing a pathway to citizenship would have massive budgetary impact. explain your side of that. >> the reality is the senate parliamentarian already ruled that they couldn't do this and this bill. they can't do it through budget reconciliation. number two, if you're going to now create a pathway to citizenship giving green cards to people who are in the country illegally, you're only going to exacerbate more illegal immigration. that's not going to tell the coyotes not to bring less people. it's going to tell them to bring more people which puts more burden on our schools, our local hospitals, and on the welfare state and on federal bureaucracy is trying to how the sun care of people in

senator joe manchin and your colleague in the house called it offensive that senators manchin and sinema have had such power. do you find it offensive? >> i call joe manchin a friend of mine and kyrsten sinema a girlfriend of mine. they are members of the senate with one vote and it's a 50-vote democrats that we have there. i don't call that offensive. it's just the nature of legislating and in the house we have a three-vote difference in the senate. we don't have a difference. every vote sounds. my friend joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, i do communicate with them. they will do what they think is best and that's part of the legislative process. >> the original goal was to move legislation that that everybody agrees to. some say it's important to pass the build back better bill in the house because then you can go to the constituents and say i voted for these measures. do you agree with that approach? >> we agreed we would not pass this bill without 50 votes in the senate. you can ask what happened in virginia. i want to see some points scored that are important to the american public. build back better is very important and the bipartisan bill that's been held hostage. that have you

senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema are not outliers in the democratic party.mocratic party, given that 53% of democrats classify themselves as moderates or conservative. you can't dismiss a clear electoral trend, the flight from the democrats was disproportionately in the suburbs and the idea that these home owning child rearing tax paying voters just want more progressive candidates is not a sustainable one. guy, that's pretty clear but if you look at aoc's tweets or other members of the squad, they say the reason terry mcauliffe lost was he wasn't progressive enough. >> that's the consensus among progressive twitters broadly which seems to be driving so much of the conversation at the elite level in our politics, including at the white house. we are seeing a dominance of progressive twitter right now which is not serving the administration political ends very well. i think it's safe to say. by the way, the quote that you played from the white house deputy press secretary saying that we're confident that our policies will help the overwhelming majority of ame

senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema have not signed off on this legislation that the houses set to vote on. there are certain provisions. joe manchin has issues with the family medical leave portion of the house version. that is probably going to get taken out. there are issues with the state and local tax deduction cap language in the house version. senator menendez has something that he wants to try to do. there are a lot of issues that have yet to be resolved and it definitely looks like the senate is going to make its own changes, send it back to the house for another vote, so there is a lot of opportunities for this to get snagged. host: casey wooton reports on congress joining us. you can find his work at nationaljournal.com. thank you for your time this morning. guest: thanks a lot. host: the passage of the infrastructure bill and you can comment on that on the phone lines and text us at (202)-748-8003, post on the facebook page at facebook.com/c-span, and tweet us @c-spanwj. shelley in charleston, west virginia. you are up first. caller: hello. i am so glad the hous

is a commitment from the president that he can secure those 50 votes, including from joe manchin and kyrsten sinemaprogressives, including veronica escobar of texas, she says she needs even less. basically, she needs joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to verbalize or put out a statement saying that they support the package and that they will be willing to agree to a vote on the infrastructure bill. so, there has been movement. and that is why it feels like democrats are moving towards some finale here, because each side, the progressives and moderates, are starting to give a little bit of ground in the negotiations, and that is what the president has said, this is a negotiation and you need compromise to get to an agreement. and we are starting to see that from both wings of the party. host: if you have questions about how to read what is happening on capitol hill when it comes to the social spending bill, the infrastructure bill, scott wong is the guy to ask the questions to. a senior staff writer at "the hill." remind us what other fiscal deadlines are hanging over these discussions? what should view

> the late show is captioning sponsored by cbs >> politico is reporting that senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinemanchema. according to the report, the two, once united on shaving down the cost of a party-line social spending bill that started at $3.5 trillion, are now going their own way in the final stretch of negotiations. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> would you just stay with me? >> what for? look at us, we're already fighting. >> well, that's what we do. we fight. you tell me when i'm being an arrogant son of a bitch, and i tell you when you're being a pain in the ass. >> so what? >> so, it's not going to be easy. it's going to be really hard. and we're going to have to work at this every day, but i want to do that, because i want you. but don't you take the easy way out.

including possibly within the democratic party we still do not know if joe manchin and kyrsten sinema9% of democratic legislators supported part of course you did one 100% for it to pass. i am not a polling expert i've seen polls that show is popular for a look at it economically and think it's in the interest of our country economically and hope they pass it. >> and jason, thank you both very much indeed for joining us. coming up next to destructive immediate gets it wrong once again putting out misinformation that fits t t ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i order my groceries online now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you're already carrying the virus that causes shingles. in fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles, and the risk only increases as you age. so what can protect you against shingles? shingrix protects. now you can protect yourself from shingles with a vaccine proven to be over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingl

it is not just joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, but in particular, senator manchin seems to be comfortable with the spotlight. jonathan: let us go to a virginia democrat, abigail spanberger who said, nobody elected him to be fdr. they elected him to be normal. there is a view outside of washington. what we have witnessed has been massive overage. does that resonate? jeff: that does resonate with moderate democrats. the issue with democrats is that they have to please both sites. you have moderates saying this needs to be not excessively ambitious. this needs to be paid for. we need to address concerns about inflation, they need significant wins as well. they need abigail spanberger and joe manchin to agree with bernie sanders and pramila jayapal. water is do not want to see the bills fail. they want to campaign on significant achievements, but inflation concerns, paying for, the talk of a $6 trillion measure earlier this year was a bit out there. jonathan: the reaction yesterday was that senator manchin would have more leverage. that is not what happened. in fact, many were doubling down.

including possibly within the democratic party we still do not know if joe manchin and kyrsten sinemacratic legislators supported part of course you did one 100% for it to pass. i am not a polling expert i've seen polls that show is popular for a look at it economically and think it's in the interest of our country economically and hope they pass it. >> and jason, thank you both very much indeed for joining us. coming up next to destructive immediate gets it wrong once again putting out again putting out misinformation that fitss that's the thing about claims, you see. they don't happen on your schedule. i mean, take a chestnut, it doesn't just say “oh, beg pardon, sir, but is now a good time for a jolly bit of window cracking?” i mean, if they did, you wouldn't need a geico claims team that's available 24/7. but, near as i can tell, chestnuts don't talk. or maybe they're just really quiet. geico. your claims team is here for you, 24/7. well, got things to do mr. chestnut, so... geico. your claims team is here for you, 24/7. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i order my groceries online no

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you know what i'm talking about, arizona senator kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. hington post" that the bill passed in the house was, quote, not the agreement the president put out in his framework several weeks ago. that got me thinking. now, one half of the manchin-ma is holding up the agenda, president biden and the rest of the democratic party were elected on yet again. senator sinema clearly loves the attention and relishes the power she has over washington right now. i mean, who wouldn't? with sinema's recent comments to politico had our bs detectors going a bit crazy. she told them, you're either honest or you're not honest. so just tell the truth and be honest and deliver that which you can deliver. there's this growing trend of people in both political parties who promised things that cannot be delivered in order to get short-term political gain and that damages the long-term health of our democracy, which i find pretty rich, because one of the two democratic senators responsible for blocking the package of president biden's agenda happens to be tired of p

including possibly within the democratic party we still do not know if joe manchin and kyrsten sinemaic legislators supported part of course you did one 100% for it to pass. i am not a polling expert i've seen polls that show is popular for a look at it economically and think it's in the interest of our country economically and hope they pass it. >> and jason, thank you both very much indeed for joining us. coming up next to destructive immediate gets it wrong once again putting out misinformation that fitss retirement income is complicated. as your broker, i've solved it. that's great, carl. but we need something better. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee. and we can monitor to see that we're on track. like schwab intelligent income. schwab! introducing schwab intelligent income. a simple, modern way to pay yourself from your portfolio. oh, that's cool... i mean, we don't have that. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ trelegy for copd. [coughing] ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze driftin' on by... ♪ i

with his former senate colleagues and will stay engaged with those key hold outs like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema throughout the next phase as his legislation faces a tougher path in that chamber. bottom line, this will not be an easy road. while clearing the house was a major milestone, the social spending and climate package will likely change dramatically before it can head back for final passage. despite that, the president declared friday he's willing to sign the final version whether some of his main priorities like paid family leave, end up in the bill or not. as to when this could happen it does have a lot of hurdled to jump through and the senate isn't expected to make significant progress until after thanksgiving where they have other challenges including government funding and raising the debt ceiling all of which has to be dealt with in december. >>> the president celebrating his 79th birthday just in time. he went to walter reed medical center for a check up, what did the doctors say? >> reporter: president biden is the oldest sitting president in american history. he spent about fiv

>> it comes down to joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. w on the brakes yesterday. >> the white house knew where i concerned. a come of concerns to work through. to automatically say that you signed off on things. when you say you sign off on things, you ought to keep your word. i'm not a liar and maybe anybody else a liar. >> president biden says he believes manchin will ultimately vote for the bill. the gop knows the problems democrats have passing this bill. they're not so secretly rooting for manchin and sinema. >> manchin and/or sinema are going to write the bill. i would observe it's quite a challenging exercise for them. i'm glad it is. >> chuck schumer just announced a deal with sinema to bring down the cost of medicine covered by medicare. is. >> but empowering medicare to directly negotiate prices in part b and part d, this deal will directly reduce out of pocket drug spending for millions of patients every time that they visit the pharmacy or doctor and senator sinema has told me she supports this agreement. i think we're there.

host: what do you think about the influence that senator joe manchin and kyrsten sinema have had over the process? guest: maybe i will just step back for a moment, obviously after democrats won those two senate races, the runoff in georgia and took control of the senate there was a realization that president biden was going to get his agenda accomplished, which needed to be ambitious because of the scale of the problems that the american people are facing and required every single senator and the margins in the house are not that great, only four votes can be spared. i think you are looking at the breadth of the entire democratic congress from someone like aoc and bernie sanders to someone like joe manchin and kristin cinema coming to an agreement. at the end of the day, they have made cuts that we do not support and just had to happen, with the most important part is that they have been negotiating and engaged and trying to actually get to a solution recognizing that these are opportunities to make this's kind of a difference in people's lives are rare, which is why they are both the

know a manchin problem or challenge, we can debate but they know that joe manchin is going to exact his price. they know kyrsten sinema manchin the spend side. the challenge for the white house has always been a sinema solution isn't necessarily a manchin solution. they think they have sinema sort of solved but they have to figure out how to get manchin there and manchin when you read that statement he made last week on the release of the strategic petroleum oil reserve, it was so clear he was so frustrated about so many other things, a warning sign. >> he's back at home in west virginia, often hears a lot of complaints from some of his constituents when he's there. i expect we see a few manchin and sinema sightings at the white house this week. join us back here every sunday at 8:00 a.m. and weekday at noon. up nih director francis collins and arkansas governor asa hutchinson. thank you for sharing your sunday morning with us. you get more with aarp medicare advantage plans from unitedhealthcare. like $0 copays on tier 1 and tier 2 prescription drugs. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪ uh-huh. ♪ $0 copays on primary care visits. ♪ wow! ♪ ♪