so first of all, it's not just joe manchon. swimming upstream. i don't know that there are very many states that had a bigger margin for donald trump in west virginia. that's first. second, i think the way around this problem, and i think how you get joe manchon to move is by setting up votes. making republicans stand in a block against the things that most americans want. set up votes on gun safety. set up votes on this infrastructure plan. and once the republicans show themselves, then maybe i'll be surprised. biden spent a lot of time talking about how he's willing to compromise. maybe some of them will come to the table and maybe there will be a compromise and that would be the best result that we would get something really major through with the support from both parties in congress. but if they stand unified in a monolithic way against these popular pieces of legislation, that's how you move joe manchon. it's not by screaming at him on twitter. >> nobody is talking about screaming at joe on twitter. i'm just saying by him

they're saying to joe manchon, hey, don't worry about it. we understand, joe.frastructure bills. we're hearing what you're saying. let's get to a compromise. so i don't think this is going to be as much as one sided as the covid bill only because i don't think joe manchon and kierstin sinema are going to give them that choice. >> biden is working with a split senate. there's no margin whatsoever. he has to have everybody on board just to get to reconciliation, as you say with joe manchon and sinema. jonathan lamere, we knew what was coming, but to hear it all laid out for an hour was pretty extraordinary, just the scope, the size and the reach of government that president biden is proposing. >> that's right, willie. the speech last night, first of all, two women behind the president including the first female vice president, kamala harris. you could hear people talking at times. but you're right, this was a proposal, the greatest expansion in decades. for transformative changes to how the government is on to something where white house advisers suggested that c

i had been assuming all along that joe manchon would figure out a way to reverse engineer the positionghts. no evidence of that yet as joe goes out of his way to basically ask reporters, what don't you get? i'm not going to change my position on the filibuster. >> i think we can leave that door open a crack, but over and over again, he said no, no way. even on something like that. and i think that's going on be the challenge for chuck schumer who is also trying to balance this same set of issues. he has potentially a primary from alexandria ocasio-cortez. manchon is really enjoying his time in the spotlight as really the most important senator in many ways. it's become almost a joke. kamala harris showed up in west virginia and joe manchon was not pleased about that and they haven't made those mistakes up since. >>> up next, republicans didn't seem to mind spending like drunken socialists when donald trump was president, using your words, so why all the pushback now when american infrastructure is the topic? that conversation is just ahead on morning joe. with liberty mutual — they cus

. >> and elizabeth, it was pat toomey who teamed one joe manchon after newtown, surprised quite a fewupport for gun ownership moved aggressively after newtown on universal background checks. now pat toomey is talking about doing that again. i'm just wondering if there is going to be a way to reach some sort of compromise, some -- at least some halfway measure that can briveng enough republicans in to make a difference. >> you know, i don't know, i'm not as optimistic about the rest of that. possibly, yes, that do not forget. given they couldn't do it then, the executive action is a step in the right direction. it's just work on some people. that's very good start. but it's not the political impetus there was when joe biden was pushing that through the senate way back when. the gun control advocates, what will reduce gun violence in this country is to have less guns. we are many, many years away from some kind of a gun buyback process. >> you look at these numbers the majority of republicans supporting massive bill, relief bill on covid. 75% of americans and a majority of republicans s