him take it with get me let me get a quick snapshot from you on the role and meaning of senator joe mansion. well i think that generally people tend to sort of step into this role if there was a void right i mean a couple of years ago we certainly wouldn't have thought of senator mitt romney potentially being like this wing votes on anything in the senate and being a right he would have just been considered a bog standard mainstream conservative but you know fast forward and here we are so i think that when you have a void people do tend to step into it and fell it but yet joe manchin is a fascinating political character and i agree with a lot of what josh said when you go back and you look at everything that happened surrounding minimum wage there was this whole discussion about how this was all about the filibuster and in actual fact it was and it was totally about tester cinema mark kelly right right all of these were democrats who were absolutely not going to go for $15.00 minimum wage but joe manchin was the one who sort of stood out front on that and took a lot of fire i do sort of wo

that brings you right back to senator joe mansion. amy: let's talk about that for a minute.2020, democrats actually raised more of this dark money than republicans. biden did better than trumpeted on it. can't this legislation and upcoming back, hurting democrats? >> it could. it is amazing that the democrats have not only caught up with republicans on darmoney but they've now outstripped them in raising this. the thing is that that is an anomaly. it's the first time that the democrats have raised more than the republicans in a presidential election. meanwhile, it is proliferating. dark money, undisclosed money from anonymous donors is exploding ever since the supreme court 2010 citizens united decision. there's a billion dollars of it in the 2020 election. the part that is growing fastest in terms of campaign money is this anonymous money. it's aroblem. it's a bipartisan problem. neither side, neither party has a lock on the virtue here. the republicans generally have had the advantage with it. amy: i want to go back to you, linking this all together here about the role tha

joe mansion -- senator joe manchin said that he's not comfortable raising it and he needs to get on board if they want majority votes. he would be a key person to pass it that way and there will be a lot of negotiations happening in the weeks to come as they continue to roll out different aspects of the bill. host: let me go back to that corporate tax rate. if it has risen to 28%, based on the timeline, the infrastructure plan would take 15 years to pay for assuming the tax stays in place. guest: that's the assumption and that's another part of the criticism and it is ambitious, you know. normally when you look at paying for a massive package like this you try to factor it in over 10 years or so and the biden administration is looking to go further than that. you are right, of course, another president can come in and reverse that. that's a lot of the internal discussion in the administration and the top lawmakers on capitol hill are discussing it. corporate tax rate is one of the main things that the administration is driving home and it is going to take several years to pay for this. at

seen as being kind of imagine i maybe would be beneficial to him i think the difference is that joe mansion having outright the like your political career that he has in west virginia you know i did an experiment once when i was out in west virginia i went through a cracker barrel and i went through and i asked every single table what people thought of joe mansion and i think because of the lengthy political career that he has there and the name recognition he has he does have some capacity to get away with things in west virginia as probably tester doesn't actually have exactly the same standing maybe unlike 8 years maybe we'll find he does but he might not be there quite yet i have been into some of those same cracker barrels in west virginia and i and i and i have kind of who largely felt the same thing there's been a great discussion just really fast you know we have the present could be speaking to the nation or a little bit more than 3 months in what grade would you give joe biden josh. it's a or a minus i think that given given the range of challenges not just in policy terms but als

i remain optimistic that people like joe mansion and senator sinema, who i would add is also a member of the lgbtq community had a history major, -- and a history major, do not want to be senators who stand in the way of equality. there are so many other things we just take for granted. and in some cases, are still fighting for, unfortunately, in a civilized society. i understand that when people run for office they strongly prefer to be in the majority. we will not have a democratic majority if we do not pass in a bill one, the senate counterpart to hr one. we have a republican party that is increasingly unhinged when it comes to what it would do to stay in power. they have outsized control over the number of state governments that will allow them to draw the maps in many places in this country and continue to draw districts that will elect people like marjorie taylor greene and other fringe members of that party. such that they will continue to win the civil war within the republican caucus. i think about the fact that to third -- two thirds of my colleagues in the house republican

west virginia senator joe mansion will not support the president's 28% corporate tax rate and would like to see closer to 25. virginia's mark warner has said he's expressing concerns to the white house about the tax bill and plenty of other democrats are demanding changes to various aspects of the size and scope of the bill, as well. if schumer moves forward on reconciliation, that means the hope of bipartisanship in the senate may have just gone from theoretically dead to technically dead and the consequences of that could be felt for americans, politics for a very, very long time. joining me is my colleague lee an caldwell. let's start with the technical aspects of this first. we don't know for sure how much room to maneuver in these additional reconciliations now that the democrats can use will be. we only have chuck schumer's word that he got permission to use it. do we have the ruling itself yet from the parliamentarian? >> we don't yet and of course, what the parliamentarian rules depends on what the text of legislation says, as well and they don't have that yet, either. there is s

bill which we call on this bill makes it very, very difficult for the public to understand watch joe mansion's going to be a key player here south carolina republican senator lindsey graham told fox news sunday there's no way republicans support a 2 trillion dollar bill. >> 85% of its got nothing to do with infrastructure. the president wants to pay for his plan by raising taxes on the richest americans and on big corporations west virginia republican senator shelley moore capital is one of the sponsors of the smaller republican infrastructure plan. so i think we've got some really good ideas. that doesn't. >> the don't incorporate raising any taxes, but simply looks at the users and the consumers of infrastructure and says let's paint with this capital told cnn's state of the union that the white house is talking with her about the republican plan and she says there is a path towards bipartisanship. hazel john news nation. washington. a key player in any infrastructure deal will be of course, speaker nancy pelosi and that will likely not be the end of the democrats attempts to continue impr

not just republicans, we expect probably will oppose most plans but one very powerful democrat, joe mansionwho holds a key vote in the 50/50 senate and i just spoke to him earlier this evening a couple times today and he's raising some serious concerns about the direction that joe biden is taking and spending enormous amount of money to redo the safety social net. he said he's very uncomfortable with the large amount of money that the president is going to propose tonight and he also raised concerns in a conversation i had with him earlier. he said the proposal to raise taxes on capital gains he said would be a quote heavy lift. he said his concern is the economy is about to take off and he's concerned we put the brakes on them. he also is trying to put the brakes on efforts by democrats to cut out republicans because of concerns republicans aren't going as far as they are and try to prevent them from using a process that would allow democrats to pass the biden agenda on just democratic votes alone. he's saying continue to work with republicans, exhaust all options before we go this other r

reason i'm saying that because you have many moderate democrats, especially west virginia senator joe mansion who has said time and time again that he would not eliminate the filibuster because that is what helps promote balance within congress. so even if it makes it to the house or senate floor. this a piece of legislation has an uphill battle to deal with. yeah. >> joe manchin. suddenly one of the most powerful people in the whole senate. that is basal john reporting for us lawmakers are continuing to , e- investigate security breakdowns at the capitol following that january 6th insurrection today for the first time publicly the u.s. capitol police inspector general spoke out about his recommendations. he's urging congress to invest big to improve safety. our washington, dc correspondent raquel martin has the latest. >> we need to think outside the box. michael bolton, the top government watchdog overseeing the capitol police is recommending dozens of security changes at the capitol to prevent future attacks be elevated to a bureau level. they need additional training within the analysts.

and joe mansion needs to get out of office. he is not a real democrat. guest: you trust on an important problem here, you can raise the tax all you want. do tax rate is going to be zero. 20% would make is one of the highest in the world. must be clear about that. but, what really matters is with actually pay. now, if you're going to boycott every company that opposes the tax increase, i would suggest you must be good at baking at home, so in your own close and other skills. because, i thought there were going to be many companies that would support this thing. unless they have all the deductions and exclusions and so forth. so, maybe jeff bezos can come out and support it because he is all that stuff going for him. i would have to look at the corporate returns. but, this problem goes way back. back when i was a kid studying economics on the 60's. it had a monopoly, every kitchen in america. it didn't pay any taxes on its profits. this is a problem. i think, also, this rhetoric that says we are owned by this or that, that is like shouting. i ask you, if y

had a lot of control with the senate so right now the biden administration is using people like joe mansion and and cures and cinema as this kind of safety net where if there's a policy that they are not particularly interested in trying to are the past they get to say oh well you know a lot it's not going to get the votes in the senate and there's only so much we can do as if the democrats don't literally have every branch right now so the question becomes if they're not going to show up for immensely popular things like background checks and red flag laws which you know 70 more than 70 percent of cargo holding n.r.a. members support red flag laws what are biden harris going to show up or wasn't a $50.00 minimum wage or wasn't cancelling student loan debt you know we've seen a lot of great things in the american rescue plan was in many ways a success but. you know if you're not going to deliver on guns i spent the absolute determine the let me ask you are you are you surprised by this i mean we've seen presidency of the presidency show the same kind of lack of political will on the questio

joe mansion. he will no circumstance remove the filibuster. forcing of ideological changes on us.licy, they are changes on what america should look like. they of those who keep machine going it has been a fantasy for a long time, they smell a chance to take their shot, they take it, i say one thing that is embowling them, they have -- embolden them is we have been printing money as a nation for a long time our debt piled up sky-high, folks have been warning, we'll go out of cliff. but what happens is when you wake up next morning we have not gone off the cliff, more people say, maybe we won't go off the cliff. folks who don't pay attention to this every day, majority of americans, they plant the seeds in books, and movies and commercials, they have been working on this, this is not overnight this has been orchestrated the hijacking of america has been oh, straighted for -- orchestrated for a long time. >> are right. maybe people did not live through the '70s with massive inflation, or not familiar with black and white films afternoon world war i. or maybe they do happen. nobody kn

senator joe mansion is now more powerful than joe biden. that's only a slight exaggeration. west virginia democrat has put the president's far left agenda in doubt he is the one to stop it or at least tone it down. matching says yes to the filibuster, keep it and it know to reconciliation, that means major legislation will require compromise between democrats and republicans. he is no fan of huge tax increases or the green new deal and without his vote the democrats cannot get all of their radical agenda through the senate. bernie sanders, aoc, elizabeth warren will not like this. of the administration is in trouble at the border , the governor of texas says child migrants are being abused and he wants at least one migrant facility closed and ms-13 gang member and two more terror suspects arrested at the border. border crossings are escalating. it's now an open border and vice president harris has no plan to visit. one more news item which we will hear a lot about today, the masters begins and it's played in augusta, georgia, so it's wrapped into the voting law controversy,

host: as far of the political side, we heard senator joe mansion speak out. you think that does with other democrats who may not want to see it that high? guest: now you're getting close to it there may be motivation. it requires some leaks to do that. let's pretend that i am. then you can say when they say this is going to make us uncompetitive, i'm going to get these international negotiations going. senator joe can go along with the tax. everything passes by 50 votes these days. they will get there tax. they will get their worldwide minimum that relieves us of the competitive burden of having a high tax rate. sometime in 2055, it's not going to happen at any time soon. i really wish i could speak personally with the treasury secretary. i really would be amused by her answers. it reminded me of the time we needed electronic currency and miniature and told me he wasn't interested in that. yesterday, the chinese gave us electronic currency. one of the things you can count on is economists have their feet planted in the past. it's very hard to get them looking

it's where the extremists and the democratic party versus liberals like joe mansion in arizona come into democrats have caved to extremists in the past on a lot of big issues, so who knows how it will turn out. our constitution is under attack with this commission. if you have a commission saying let's walked the constitution people would be nervous. when you talk about packing the supreme court you're talking about blowing up the constitution. carley: let's talk about hunter biden. i want your take on what he said april 4, about the laptop controversy. >> the creepiest thing is-- look, the only thing i know is if the intelligence community came out with a report said that the entire thing is disinformation -- just it's in my book, it's all right there. carley: are we going to get to the bottom this or never get the truth you think? >> not if the current justice department keeps preceding the way they have, which is to protect hunter biden and also joe biden. we need a special counsel out of the justice department to investigate these allegations. hunter biden essentially admitting the l

joe mansion tried after new town to make all commercial sales of guns subject to background checks. he did it in a bipartisan buy s basis with senator too mmey. it got 54 votes. even though the polls are overwhelming on thisasis with senator toomey. it got 54 votes. even though the polls are overwhelming on this , the politics haven't changed. this is a cultural issue for the right. it's a bit like masks. it freedom versus public health and they haven't really shifted much on this so it is numbing to be sitting here with you again talking about these stories. they come so fast that you can barely remember last week's mass shooting, but the politics is not shifting, and i am not optimistic a compromised will be reached. chris murphy the senator from connecticut is working hard to find a compromise. i do think that the white house is spending most of its political capital on the infrastructure plan, that is the biggest thing in front of them right now and i think joe biden has a sense, a realistic sense of what is doable here. >> yeah, gloria, david talked about chris murphy, the lead

make this bipartisan or will he have to try and get every single republican, including those like joe mansion off on this and push through with just democratic support. >> well, democrats have been relatively hole at this joe manchin has talked about some that he'd like to see that are different. but if you're going big and republicans are here. you can find that middle room that you can negotiate from and that some place that joe biden thinks he can do they can pull off in a bipartisan way. it's going to be interesting because republicans are opposing some of these issues that have 60% or more support in the abstract in terms of polling soak and they're just saying no game work for a long time. it can. if they can extend that into the fall. but democrats also want to put together some accomplishments at the same time while biden's going big, he also hasn't gone as far as many progressives want so that kind of normal kind of return to politics as usual but without the craziness that was going on every morning, every afternoon, every evening in washington, dc how far can that get him and if ki

there has been very important news on this infrastructure and other plant senator joe mansion of westirginia -- senator mark warner, thought of as more as someone who would go along with the biden team more often, said he will not tell reporters what he thinks what does have concerns about the biden plan in general. this is a 50 senate majority and a need every senate democrat and there are two that have concerns. this will be a long slot to get -- along sl -- a long slog. judy: thank you to both of you for making it so much clearer. ♪ stephanie: good evening. we will return to judy and the full program after the latest headlines. california announced it will lift all its covid-19 restrictions june 15 if hospitalizations remain low and there's sufficient vaccine supply. but its mask mandate will remain in effect. meanwhile, indiana ended its statewide mask order, although businesses can still require customers to wear them. and a rare sight in arlington, texas last night. a sellout crowd packed in to watch the texas rangers home opener. the largest in-persoaudience for a major league

had a lot of control with the senate so right now the biden administration is using people like joe mansion and and cures and cinema as this kind of safety net where if there's a policy that they are not particularly interested in trying to are the past they get to say oh well you know a lot it's not going to get the votes in the senate and there's only so much we can do as if the democrats don't literally have every branch right now so the question becomes if they're not going to show up for immensely popular things like background checks and red flag laws which you know 70 more than 70 percent of cargo holding n.r.a. members support red flag laws what are biden harris going to show up or wasn't a $50.00 minimum wage or wasn't cancelling student loan debt you know we've seen a lot of great things in the american rescue plan was in many ways a success but. you know if you're not going to deliver on guns i spent the absent can't determine the let me ask you are you are you surprised by this i mean we've seen presidency of the presidency show the same kind of lack of political will on the que

listen to what joe mansion had to say.isited the border in the laredo, texas recently. >> there is so many different ways to do it. a lot of people thought the wall would solve all of the problems. the wall doesn't solve the problems and never was intended to. if you don't lose your security measures, your technology and basically the human element of the guards we have, our agents, order agents, those of the people we are basically looking at to control this and do a better job than we are doing right now. but, to blame the biden administration, i certainly believe joe biden has the compassion to doing this and doing it right. i believe that. and not have that type of an attitude that someone else's responsibility and someone else's fault. we can do that differently than how we have done it before, but we do have a human crisis coming. the crisis has been coming quite a period of time. long before the trump administration or the biden administration. it seems to continually go in cycles. what we are seeing today and the m

tom: who is the gdp joe manchin? mansione democrat from -- joe manchin is the democrat from west virginia. is there an equivalent in the republican party? >> it's only after joe manchin says no on something that we are shipped to the republican party and see if there is any republican willing to join with democrats to get them to the 50 vote threshold. for legislation like this that is really going to go through a long and extended negotiation process, you are going to see sort of the opportunity for lawmakers to let it be known to leadership and the white house what they want to see in this bill, where their red lines are. you are going to see them want to come together on this particular one, because frankly, whenever a democrat votes with republicans against one of these packages, likely some the house, you see republicans pounce. democrats don't like this either, even though it was just one lawmaker. jonathan: does the president have any interest working with republicans right now? his campaign was about uniting things a

just to make mitch mcconnell and joe mansion happy? -- joe manchin happy?aller: paul, minnesota. -- host: paul, minnesota? caller: the end user always ends up paying taxes. it's going to be just like another tax on you and me, alright? also it seems like no one in this country is working, they are dead on their feet. they think that taxes need to go into infrastructure for their own. why should i pay for something in new york i will never probably use or somebody in california and why should they paypeople should pay for their n stuff, if they have tollroad or bridges or whatever. a lot of times the airport here in orlando, they have user fees for these airlines. so there has got to be a way out without raising taxes, have union dues for everything -- in mississippi, florida, and all these southern states. that's all i got to say. host: here is an idea by robert poole, transportation policy at the reason foundation, author of "rethinking america's highways p writes, "will infrastructure with private cash. in use across the world to finance infrastructure. l

and the senate, it has no chance of passing because you have people like joe mansion who says he is notd. there are also democrats who say they are not on board. it has become a very partisan issue that is all about democrats ascertaining power and keeping it for years to come just like we have seen with the immigration issue and voting rights issue where we are talking about georgia law. those things that they brought up. these are all power grabs, and we have got to keep our eyes on the ball. >> sandra: i will let harold respond to that in just a moment. you have democrats painted ms. as a civil rights issue. monday are john's brought race into the debate. lesson tennis. >> one senate republican said that d.c. wouldn't be a "well-rounded working-class gate." i had no idea they were so many syllables in the word white. one of my republican colleagues said that d.c. shouldn't be a state because the district doesn't have a landfill. with all of the racist trash my colleagues have brought to this debate, i can see why they are worried about having a place to put it. >> sandra: is not what

senator joe mansion is now more powerful than joe biden. that's only a slight exaggeration.tion will require compromise between democrats and republicans. he is no fan of huge tax

joe mansion -- senator joe manchin said that he's not comfortable raising it and he needs to get on boardthey want majority votes. he would be a key person to pass it that way and there will be a lot of negotiations happening in the weeks to come as they continue to roll out different aspects of the bill. host: let me go back to that corporate tax rate. if it has risen to 28%, based on the timeline, the infrastructure plan would take 15 years to pay for assuming the tax stays in place. guest: that's the assumption and that's another part of the criticism and it is ambitious, you know. normally when you look at paying for a massive package like this you try to factor it in over 10 years or so and the biden administration is looking to go further than that. you are right, of course, another president can come in and reverse that. that's a lot of the internal discussion in the administration and the top lawmakers on capitol hill are discussing it. corporate tax rate is one of the main things that the administration is driving home and it is going to take several years to pay for this. at the

it with the biden administration wanted to raise corporate taxes to 28% and red state democrat joe mansion said that packs hike goes too far in their six or seven other democrats who feel strongly against this. that's a big deal in the split senate at 50/50. unlikely as we know to vote for the tax hike admits mcconnell says he's against it: yet the latest liberal wish list. 5% actually goes to infrastructure so why call it an infrastructure planned? susan: left wing wish list, but that's my editorial. to the markets, how we will open this monday morning, april 12, by the way, down 50 on the dow jones, down 26 on the nasdaq and let's bring in ed yardeni. i want to know-- i think $800 billion worth of checks have gone out, emergency checks. how are we using the money: do we know yet? >> we do, the federal reserve bank of new york apparently has pretty good survey system and may have concluded that of the three rounds including the latest round, they show like 25% is spent on goods and services and the rest is going into savings. savings mean accumulating assets and also paying off debt. i kn

mansion. >> turns out joe is also the new co-owner of the al ringling mansion, right here in baraboo, wisconsinor his tourist attraction, like miniature circuses. what was the dickeys' reaction when you said, "i have the space, i have the expertise, and i live in the ringling mansion"? >> i think they were a little apprehensive at first. "you're what? you're where?" >> [ laughs ] >> and, of course, i was standoffish, because it's ours and it's our baby. >> you feel that strongly? >> absolutely. >> joe wins over the dickeys, who agree to loan out the circus for three years. in october 2017, just months after the real ringling bros. circus has its final show after 146 years in business, the tents of dickey's circus are pitched for the first time in four decades. >> it was overwhelming. just an unbelievable amount of parts. it was about five days of intensive work. >> when fully set up, the circus takes up most of the ballroom. and, today, barbara finally gets to see her strange inheritance assembled as her father-in-law intended. are you ready? >> uh...yes. >> [ laughs ] >> okay, here we go. and,

if i were the person, if i were joe biden tonight, i would be speaking tojoe mansion, the very influentialway over what can actually pass the senate —— manchin, and make it into the president's desk.— president's desk. that big spending _ president's desk. that big spending number - president's desk. that big spending number and - president's desk. that big| spending number and let's president's desk. that big - spending number and let's make no mistake, whatjoe biden is trying to do is a radical overhaul of american society. it hasn't been done since lbj in the 1960s. the other big overhaul of the american society that comes to mind is fdr and the new deal. this is a major change thatjoe biden wants to enact in the way that the american society works. it is a huge expansion of the social safety net. it is very much targeted at the american middle class and the american working class. and it comes, yes, with a very big pricetag. $6 trillion. i am not actually quite sure how many zeros that is on 6 trillion but even i know that is a lot of zeros. but donald trump... shot the american defici

past and the senate because he is not voting for president joe biden's infrastructure package if it raises the corporate tax rate to 28%. mansionsts are behind him meeting biden's entire two-point to 5 trillion is that in the water. the white house is the 28% rate is a key part in order to pay for the plan. so will the real joe bigshot please stand up? please stand up? richard, if you lose joe manson you lose everything. >> correct. i think if democrats leave joe manchin on these votes because they need the entire democratic caucus they will lose everything for it with abington editing there will be some negotiating. i do think the pure package joe biden rolled out in pittsburgh a couple weeks ago but what be the final bill will look like for this of wiggle room amongst republicans. we saw senator roy blunt to say the sunday show this past sunday there could be some appetite among republicans to pick up a singular old-school infrastructure build by itself. and then the democrats consider how they deal some of these other mess issues like broadband getting clean water, and other things in some sort of reconciliation for it's way

wonder if he really is a democrat, how agreeable you think senator mansion is to all of these proposals by president biden. >> to be joeanchin at this moment in time. you can you can pretty much write your own recipe for any bill you want. >> i think he's amenable big things. but i think he's going to have do 2 first of all, he's got to move through his own domestic politics right. he comes from a state that is overwhelmingly republican. so he needs to be careful there. and second, i think he's going to extract some actual concessions. i think there will be some real negotiations and some sort of being caught trying negotiations. i think we should expect to see both of those happened in the coming weeks. >> you know that the issued a response tonight, but so did a at a branch of progressive said had someone responding to the president. it does kind of suggest that he has that pressure from various corners. they're nothing at his heels to. >> yeah, that's right. and at least so far he's been pretty successful in consolidating the that becomes harder to do the more time that he lapses and the closer we get to mid terms a

in the senate, all eyes are turning to moderate senator joe manchin of west virginia, who has expressed concerns over the price tag senator mansion has been and will be an important partner to the president and to the agenda of the administration, while in georgia president biden met with former president jimmy carter, who wasn't able to attend the inauguration. the president has to philadelphia tomorrow for the second day off his back on track tour. and washington malvin of era fox news this afternoon, governor newsome signed new legislation to provide tax cuts to small businesses. the governor's spoken a restaurant in the city of san fernando in l. a county. the bill is aimed at business owners who took paycheck protection program or ppe p loans from the federal government. those businesses won't have to pay state taxes on the money if they had a 25% reduction orm or in profits for at least one quarter. the governor also said that the toughest times in this pandemic are now behind us. the state is coming back. this state is roaring back 41% of america's jobs came out of the state of california in february, 270 jobs have come ou

in the senate, all eyes are turning to moderate senator joe manchin of west virginia, who has expressed concerns over the price tag. senator mansion an important partner to the president and to the agenda of the administration, while in georgia president biden met with former president jimmy carter, who wasn't able to attend the inauguration. the president has to philadelphia tomorrow for the second day off his back on track tour. and washington mountain rivera fox news. on wall street stocks ended the day broadly higher. the dow rose 239 points, nasdaq added 31, the s and p gained 28 points to set another record high. traders were encouraged by a sharp rise in u. s economic growth in the first quarter and a jump in home sales in march. quarterly corporate earnings are also generally exceeding expectations. the fda is plunging to once again try to ban menthol cigarettes. today's announcement is in response to a petition by public health advocates eight years ago, the african american tobacco control leadership council was one of the groups behind that petition and a lawsuit that was filed last year. supporters say the cigarettes h

in the senate, all eyes are turning to moderate senator joe manchin of west virginia, who has expressed concerns over the price tag senator mansion has been and will be an important partner to the president and to the agenda of the administration, while in georgia president biden met with former president jimmy carter, who wasn't able to attend the inauguration. the president has to philadelphia tomorrow for the second day off his back on track tour. and washington madman of era fox news. five people, including two sheriff's deputies, and the suspected gunman, or dead following an ambush and hours long standoff in north carolina. this all began yesterday morning when two deputies conducted a wellness check it home after a homeowner and his family didn't show up for work and weren't answering calls. investigators say the gunman shot the deputies as they entered the home officers from several law enforcement agencies responded, and that led to a standoff with the gunman. one of the deputies was taken. from the home and rushed to a hospital where he died. the other deputy died at the scene. they put their life on the line for us, an

all eyes are turning to moderate senator joe manchin of west virginia, who has expressed concerns over the price tag senator mansionilen georgia president biden met with former presidential recorder who wasn't able to attend the inauguration. the president has to philadelphia tomorrow for the second day off his back on track tour and washington. malvin rivera fox news. this afternoon, governor newsome signed new legislation to provide $6 billion in tax cuts to california businesses. the bill was aimed at business owners who took paycheck protection program, or p p p loans from the federal government. those businesses won't have to pay state taxes on the loan money if they had a 25% reduction or maurin. profits for it least one quarter. it also includes expenses related. to those loans as well. so full conformity in that respect but again limited. two companies that are not public and limited to companies that experienced significant loss associate it with this pandemic. the governor spoke in a restaurant in the city of san fernando and los angeles county that received the federal loan. the mayors of california's bi

think senator coons, sitter mansion to the most important people in the senate today, have said let's break this thing down and let's get to a deal. i think one of the pillars of joereaching across the aisle. for 40 years, are 37 years he did that in a senate. i hope he gets back to that bipartisan routes. so john, since joe manchin has been called out. let's listen to what joe manchin said on cnn this morning. >> do you think that -- >> i think they should be separated. i do think they should be separated because when you start putting so much into one bill which we call an ominous pill, it makes it very very difficult for the public to understand. >> so john, manchin is throwing his support behind the split bill just like we were talking. phil and i were just talking about. what do you think about that? democrats can't use the budget reconciliation path. how important was this comment and do you expect mention to stick to his guns on this kind of a move? >> well i'm not sure what senator manchin is going to be as we get into these discussions and whether we split the bill or not it's kind of a tactical decision it's going to be made by the white house, by speake

joe biden. i'm not confident in democrats and i'm certainly not confident in kamala harris who seems far more concerned with her v.p. mansionice president. ainsley: i know you are a big supporter of our men and women in whether you and turns point u.s.a. asked you to come and speak at clemson university for black the blue event in littlejohn coliseum. you spoke there and there were protesters outside. it's part of your no interruption, back the blue segment on fox nation. we have a clip of that watch this. >> we are here today to protest racism and to protest that didn't even make a statement about this. their silence is supporting the racist tomi lahren and goes against the values of the diverse student population here. the whole back the blue is to be against the black lives matter movement. in itself is racist because the black lives matter movement is not anti-police. so the fact that she has created a movement to create some type of story that the cops are hated against and they are victims is racist. ainsley: tomi, they are calling you racist. what's your response. >> i'm used to people falsely calling me a racist. if