>> joe mcbryan: well, no.f, mom and dad - we all lived in this cabin here. >> john lovelace: the four of you, right here. >> joe mcbryan: that's it, right there. >> john lovelace: in the 40s. >> joe mcbryan: i left here in september of '49 to go to school. >> john lovelace: six years old. >> joe mcbryan: that's right. >> john lovelace: what was happening in the depression? what was it like up here? >> joe mcbryan: depression didn't happen. the black thursday, the dust ball... didn't really happen here because they were very, very happy and very secure here. you gotta realize this is-- here is security. the abundance of water here precluded any drought. and they had all the water, all the fish. they had caribou, moose. they had all the wild meat they wanted. they had the forest for heat, which was needed. they had lights and they had their freedom. there was no taxman. there was no welfare man. there was nobody knocking at the door threatening to take your house away. >> john lovelace: so with you've had a good