you've got people like francois holmes and joe merkel and sort of saying very, very, act, she didn't have the best of intentions with the midst agreements. and of course, we know that some is the breaking of that meets agreement, primarily by train, which is boss about the, the conflict. so it really means that there's any one way forward for russia. i'm not is clearly to have also met victory because they, they can't go by any so called piece agreement because it appears to be up. i did what just to play devil's advocate, anthony. some would argue that from ukraine's point of view, merkel and alon seems to be improving rights in as your business biggest, conventional war since the 2nd world war. he states that well, she just got to look at her wash, was this act, she happens. and if you look at the top bass region, ah, since 2014, that has been a continuous breaking all the meant to gray member of the shelling of that on bus region. ah, car continues to diary i'm been, i think estimate. so maybe even up to 14000 casualties and this seems to be just to let her bombing of civilians ar