joe miezener who most here describe as a genuine cowboy runs the program. >> good. i've been training horses for 35 plus years. i've been working with inmates for about six months now. i never worked with inmates before. how do you want to do it? >> stay towards the front of the horse. >> why do i want to do it like that? >> so you don't get kicked. >> i think this is a huge opportunity to help guys that probably don't have the mind-set that they're worth anything or have anything to offer. and if they can help these horses become domesticated and usable, they're going to get to know what it feels like to accomplish something. >> there you go. now put your pad up. >> see why you'd want to carry that pad like that? these inmates, some of them have ever been around a horse, never rode a horse. we teach them horse manship from the ground up. >> you've got that down, man. >> this program is a win/win, not only for the wild horses, but also for these gentlemen to learn a skill set that not everybody has. >> nash tag had never been around horses until he joined the progra