hopefully we will get joe moglia back, we are working on his audio now. bloomberg. ♪ ♪ guy: so we have been sticking around for the conversation with joe moglia. we think have done it -- technology is a wonderful thing. joe, we hope it will work, so let's give it a go. joe: i hope so too. guy: you sound perfect. do you think there is a problem that needs fixing here? what is gary gensler up to? joe: everything is blowing up, citadel and capital, and they recognize the sec [inaudible] the sec's job is to protect the individual investor. [inaudible] does that make sense? alix: go ahead, joe. joe: [inaudible] the market maker has a good --, and creates a price, the best price for the broker. they keep a piece of that for themselves. now, the brokerage firm then decides how much of that, how much of that payment they give to the client and how much they keep for themselves. most of the time, they get the biggest chunk, but at schwab, 95% of all -- our [inaudible] by the way, this is for free. this is for free. that's how incredible this deal is. now let's loo