joining me, joe nocera, who wrote about his column -- about this in his column today.ll with me, guest host martin mignot. it's pervasive and ingrained is what you wrote in your story, and the tide is now turning as men start to lose their jobs. but just how pervasive was it, is it, and why is it -- the tide now turning? joe: it is so pervasive. there are studies out there that show that 60% of the women who were polled said that they had had to deal with some form of fact -- sexual harassment. i would say that's pretty darn pervasive. it's really gone on for years, because the power imbalance between a venture capitalist who has money and a female founder who desperately needs money is immense. it's as powerful as a ceo and underling. so, it's really only recently, especially after susan fowler wrote that incredible blog post about her year at uber, which launched, really, the decline and fall of travis kalanick, the ceo, that women have started to come out and not talk in vague generalities, but use their names, so they are on the record, and named the people who har