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who is a police or repair that relationship, because yeah, i could see a startled expression with joe rogan when rogue, i mean rogan literally singled you out, and there's no that trump a single, that rogan as being a really important factor in this wind for setting demographic to yeah, i mean look, he wants a complicated character, but they're all complicated characters and they're all subject to all kinds of pressures. and we don't know exactly what they're being told behind the scenes and what kind of um, you know, sort of deals are being brought to them by the security agencies, by advertisers who are threatening to boycott. we don't know the, the entire story. i do think that the trump administration or, or the donald trump and people like 80 vance visit least, brought the censorship issue out into the open and said they're opposed to it. which site is a huge start. and you one most good somebody who just just by doing the twitter files to this amazing public service by exposing the whole thing to, to the public. so yeah, i'm not on optimistic. i just would like to point out that there

i have to tell you, david, i think that the mark zuckerberg interview with joe rogan was seminal and it basically said apple you're done and nothing since steve jobs in a defensive interview and one of the most offensive i have seen a long time. >> he is very outspoken these days and i don't know what is going on there so many different things to take from that interview, which we will discuss later as well. the bond market here i am curious to get your thoughts. as the yields adjust to certainly the growing likelihood we don't get as many rate cuts and certainly as many as they expected they would in 2025 and not that long ago. >> yes. i think that whole concept of the rate cuts as a post to a few has to be off the table because it does look like we had some very serious misjudgment by the fed and we have to talk about the fires right at the top and not about -- enough talk about this. what could happen in terms of public health and what could happen in terms of the inability to breathe but more importantly as you know the loss of life and the distractions so immense it is starting

it might be different if kamala won, but he just spoke to joe rogan vealing how joe biden and his teamt facebook officials to do more censorship on facebook during covid. watch this. >> it was during the biden administration when they were trying to roll out the vaccine program. they pushed us super hard to take down things that were, honestly, were true, right in they basically pushed us and said, you know, anything that says that vaccines might have side effects, you basically need to take down. if basically, these people from the biden administration would call up our team and, like, scream at them and curse. elizabeth: wow. so they were just really flat out demanding censorship even of things that were true. what do you think, michael? >> the american people voted to restore common sense to the our government. that's why we have all of the leaders that are coming across including elon musk and zuckerberg now. i think it's very important that we return to normalcy, we return to sanity, we return to common sense and we return to a pro-america agenda. that's what the american people w

know joe rogan, his audiences roughly $25.00 times bigger than the biggest cable audience in america. and for a presidential candidate to assume that interview is basically telling people that they don't want those votes. and so that wasn't silly at all. that wasn't a trifle at all, but the people in the press seems that these people are 2nd rate. and the reality is that the audience figure show that nobody really watches the many more than they don't really have influence. so better just doing more of them. yeah, and the celebrities didn't work or either of course, we all remember how trump enlarge this one, and he didn't drain the swamp in the 1st time. i know the bone pay always being spoken of. how does a pen to can pick, which would surely show he's a game helping this won't but, but do you think they will be more revenged this time? i mean, his support is used to john block them up about hillary and clearly crimes were committed by the bite and the ministration. dividing. harris administration and previous administrations. is he going to open up all the books and start to get t

he said, dad, you got to go do joe rogan, do all these guys that we did. joe rogan was great.eat, right, barron, they're all good. he understood the market. how about kai? stand up, kai. is that byron donalds back there. stand up byron. what a future this one has. what a future. that's great, byron. thank you very much. how about lutnick. he's going to take in more money than any country has ever thought about. we're going to sign some orders right now. that's really what i want to do. so we're going to sign executive orders. first, i'll revoke nearly 80 destructive and radical executive actions of the previous administration, one of the worst administrations in history. not one of them. the worst. anybody that would allow millions of people to pour through our borders from jails, prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums, gang members to be taken off the streets of venezuela and deposited in our country and many, not just venezuela. crime in venezuela is down the previous administration. all over the world, they're emptying their prisons into our country. they're emptying

their quip -- clips from joe rogan's show where he's interviewing a fire expert and they are talking about this scenario. are you tony joe rogan who was living in texas knew more about knew more about the event and the governor and mayor of los angeles who was in ghana despite the warnings? people look at that and say i don't trust these people to do the basics. it is about basic competency. it is paradise on earth, california, but it is run by people who are allowing apocalyptic scenes. and i don't just mean the fires. there are neighbourhoods in l.a. where homelessness and drug addiction is just so, so rampant. and i think they have lost sight of basics and part of what the vibe shift more broadly we are seeing is about is about america's demand for common sense and policies rooted in reality. policies that don't allow giant swaths of one of america's greatest cities, the fifth largest economy in the world to be burned to the ground. >> martha: you brought up john lindsay who was a presidential hopeful and i think we have an image from 1969. a huge snowstorm that swapped new york c

so you don't want to throw it away on two and a half hours of joe rogan, you would have answered joe rogan i can't do that every week. you know, much as maybe you know, if i'm incarcerate or something, then nine. but maybe that's part of the audience for that know, who knows? but no, but so there's that i do think about that i can see a kind of there's a kind of efficiency argument that, you know, don't eat junk food, empty calories or whatever but that doesn't mean that you should be that you should be kind of you should be fanatical about. the purity of the idea that into your system i think it's kind of fine to play in the model. you write though that the models wrong be exposed to something that is noxious does not make you noxious very often it actually strengthens defenses against future noxious ideas. yeah. which is another way to think about it. if you're thinking in terms of viruses and germs. little bit. yeah, that is good for the system i had nothing but marxist professors in college. it was actually credible like all marxists and. it was i could tell none of the students t

. >> i think what will happen is they will go on joe rogan and then joe rogan will say something about trans issues and they will say trans issues, that's just a distraction from high prices and have you heard about what we did with medicare and joe rogan will be like what. they talk like a message document. >> trace: it's nothing but talking points in the countries like i don't want to hear that. >> you know what i can't stop thinking about his ever since the democrats lost on november fifth, they are sitting there scrambling like how can we win again, what kind of winning message can we have again. they have no identity, they just want power. they will literally adopt any policy in order to win and you can trust that with donald trump, who had a very clear agenda, foreign policy agenda, social agenda, cultural agenda, economic agenda most of all, and he was willing to do anything to get in power to enact that agenda. it is such a split screen. >> trace: instead of just giving talking points, communicate with the american people. let them hear your answers, don't just send somebody ou

mark zuckerberg joined the joe rogan podcast friday to talk about culturally muted companies.ake a listen. >> the masculine energy i think is good. i think corporate culture was really trying to get away from it. having a culture that like celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits. caroline: let's bring in bloomberg's riley griffen for more. you go back in history and mark zuckerberg's first business he belt was about rating women's attractiveness at harvard university. he has progressed and changed and become the c.e.o. of a massive company, so too his changes around culture ebb and flow it seems. >> no doubt. he said it in his own words there. the use of that very strong language culturally neutered companies has drawn the attention of several and he talked about feminine energy. he grew up around women and has three daughters himself, but those comments have been controversial over the weekend to say the least. mike: we have to ask also about another comment that he made during this exchange with joe rogan. that was about the company's relationship with the bi

manna is going mad at, ruckerberg is staying afte free speech on joe rogan's podcast.ndin ♪ ♪ sp businessesour business grows, shipstation grows with you. so you can sync and manage all your orders... no matter how big you get. ♪ shipstation's custom automations maximize your team's time. plus, you get more carrier options, at the lowest possible rates. ♪ keep your business growing. head to shipstation.com to start your free trial today. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> dana: meta ise jeanine: having a maga mecklenberg county zuckerberg talking about it the censorship cartel, the billionaire sitting down with joe rogan to say thidiantls. >> in the biden administration would call of our team and scream at them. it got to the point that know we are not going to take down things that are true. >> judge jeanine: and zuckerberg means business, meta is killing there is d.e.i. programs and bad news for tim walz! mark zuckerberg is ordering thge removal of tampons from the men's bathroom's meta offices. okay.at what is behindhr zuckerberg is a change of heart, is a genuine? d5 i do believe this is his more natural state.

. >> they think whistling to happen is there going to go on joe rogan and then joe rogan is going tos, that's just a distraction from high prices come and have you heard about what we did with medicare? and joe rogan is going to be like what? they talk like a message document and like the poster told him to talk. >> jesse: and programming alert, i'll have one of the podcast pros at 8:00, not sure which one. dana, how do you interpret what they are selling now? >> dana: i think they are at least the ones who are trying to figure it out and be honest about it, and have a platform to do it, it is a very popular program, they work for a super pocket popular president. even after the biden disastrous debate on june 27th, they were some of the first to say wow, okay, we have a problem and assess to change. i don't know they were for an open primary are all in on kamala, might ask that tonight, might be a good question to ask, not to give you an assignment, but i would like to know. some of the democrats on the biden influencer page today were complaining that donald trump had been in offic

speaking on the joe rogan experience, zuckerberg said app apple hasn't invented anything great and now sitting on it 20 years later. listen in. >> they are not on their game in releasing many innovative things -- the good news is the tech industry is super die that many dynamic. if you don't do a good job, you will get beat by someone. >> zuckerberg added if apple stopped applying the ndom rules, meta stock would double. >>> and johnson & johnson looking to buy intracellular. the deal could come as soon as this week. intracellular focuses on nervous system disorders. johnson & johnson is not moving much in the pre-market. frank, a moment ago, oil is hitting a four-month high this morning on a fresh wave of u.s. sanctions against russia announced after the market closed friday. now the new sanctions target the country's energy giants, including more than 180 tankers and another dozen russian energy officials. the treasury department says the sanction tankers are part of quote shadow fleet that avoided existing export restrictions. >>> and jpmorgan chase ceo jamie dimon spoke with "60 mi

knee and acting like a real guy and joe rogan is like what is happening to him?s now on his board? saying joe borden -- joe rogan i totally screwed up no more fact-checking i will see what elon musk is i'm going to do the same thing do you believe it? almost nobody believes that. i believe it. i think more than being rich, more than being smart, i think he wanted to be cool. and for the first time in his life he is cool. >> brian, brian, it is me, maybe, you can't be cool with the perm. >> yes. >> you have a billion dollars to have to fix the perm. >> i gave you a great soliloquy, i give you a monolog, and you beat me down with one sentence. >> just facts, baby. >> greg: it does feel like zuckerberg is manning up and away. there is this masculine eat those like basically a correction of the antimale perspective. >> ironically finally got rid of tampons as soon as he got some balsa. i am linked for everything so i would make the worst period. look, when they actually like banned men from the women's bathrooms than i will be happy. that is the real thing. >> greg:

so not exactly exactly, but he paid on the joe rogan, she pod cause, but he discussed all they told i guess about both censorship. what else are they talking about? well, mark zuckerberg went on joe rogan showed a talk quite a bit of smack about his own country's fact that his own company rather uh its facts as a checking program, calling its something out of 1984. i mean, according to dr. burke, he only did it because government spooks, and the vitamin ministration, were pressuring him to do that. but this is something that's pretty funny, considering how gung ho, the ceo of meta was about censoring content up until just this point. now, i mean, as early as 2023, when the twitter files were making headline news still, it was already an established fact that social media companies works actually going above and beyond to help the state sensor content kind of follow. and this really, we learn twitter, facebook, google and other companies developed a formal system for taking in moderation requests from every corner of government. the f b i d h s h h s, d o d, the global engagement cente

. >> shannon: so facebook and meta founder mark zuckerberg telling joe rogan about the interactions hisny had with the biden administration and he's also rolling a big policy changes. time now for the sunday grip to see what they think. usa today washington bureau chief, the editor in chief, fox news senior political analyst and by the way authoring the brand-new book out tuesday new prize for these eyes, the rise of america's second civil rights movement. and are editor in chief of jewish insider. welcome everybody and congrats on the book this week. somali, zuckerberg went on to say that wants they pushed back in earnest the agencies and government began investigating and coming up and said quote it was brutal. >> this was a fascinating three hour interview with joe rogan. were mark zuckerberg goes to what it's like to be subject to pressure from the government to censor american speech and debate and all sorts of issues and how any instance they put forward against this resolve to different agencies of the federal government coming after them seemingly unrelated but clearly because t

that's the one pitch to joe rogan and his pitching otherwise.sis, musk, zuckerberg all these high tech guys know where the gravy train is and he was driving the gravy train and that is donald trump the incoming president. they want to keep public funds flowing into their programs. they are also i think concerned about regulation of the internet. the internet to my mind is a cesspool. you think about the kind of things that are out there and now he says he is not going to fact check anything? that russians and the chinese must be celebrating. they will put out nonsense. you think about the damage the while has done to our children, to our lives? i think they have misdirected a lot of people are being full to think at it's the censorship argument when in reality we need in fact some regulation of what is the wild, wild west on our computers. if in fact mark zuckerberg said with her getting rid of it is that left wing so-called fact checking enterprise in which left-wing groups, censored speech and debate among conservatives there will still be mod

so i guess mark stuck who but he's been on the joe rogan pod cause he said his was forced to send the sub, but found a little bit funny, but to me. but what else did he talk about? well, it looks like mark soccer berg went on joe rogan's podcast to talk a lot of smack about his own company's fact checking program calling. it's something out of 1984. i mean according to dr. burke, he only made it that way because government spooks and the bite and administration were forcing his hand, which is a pretty funny claim, considering just how gung ho, the ceo of meta was about censoring content for the longest time. up until only now . i mean, back in early 2023, when the twitter files were just were still making the news headlines. it was an established fact that the social media giants, including facebook, weren't going above and beyond to help the state sensor contact and motion. we learned twitter, facebook, google, and other companies developed a formal system for taking in moderation requests from every corner of government. the f b i d h s h h s, d o d, the global engagement center at

and i will do five hours on joe rogan. about the rogan interview was he said he had to take a bathroom break. >> someone put it into the rachlt i. engine to see, he spent 38% of the time talking. these things are so long. not that i don't like long conversations but he spoke 38% and zuckerberg was the rest, the other 62. i think that is interesting. that's a lot for an interviewer, 38%, don't you think? >> i think it is. i used to put a stop watch to my show and i got to speak 38% of the time so maybe it is not so bad. >> no, but you were the cohost. you weren't doing the interview. are you really imply that cutless 32% of the time? >> there was a bit of a stop watch put on him. i have to go to court on this. i think i'm not making money. let's go back to carl. >> i will pick it up, jim. uri is close to the cop of the leader board. interesting this deal for h and e, maybe not merger monday, maybe merger monday and tuesday? >> if i were jonathan cater at the justice department or the ftc, i would veto this deal immediately.

but in this case, on joe rogan's show, it's all about free speech.yeah, and i think that zuckerberg should also consider, from a business standpoint, what happened to x when they removed all these restrictions, a large percentage of their advertisers left. so this problem is worth billions of dollars. to not get wrong with zuckerberg. so i think that he, you know, by by he's trying to gain favor with the current administration, but he's missing the possibility of the downside by doing this, by removing the safeguards. and, you know, we want it to be transparent. we don't want this black box system. so that is a step in the right direction. but you need people working full time trying to research and find the context. otherwise, you know, it might not be the win that they're thinking it is for either political party. because just imagine how much easier it will be for the media or either political party to make up lies about the other side and go, well, i don't have to worry about being fact checked. now, let's just let's just see what this goes. as l

and frankly, he got into that on the joe rogan podcast. it is important for these platforms not to alienate half the country. on the other hand, by making these more conservative changes, this maga makeover this week, jessica, i think facebook might be alienating a lot of liberals and a lot of independents, and we just won't know until we see the user data months or even years from now, and how it all plays out. >> yeah, sara, one argument i heard was kind of the idea that, like, look, they had all this fact checking in place and yet there was still a lot of misinformation on these platforms, you know, did it actually work kind of kind of piggybacking off of what brian was saying. what do you kind of think of that argument? >> well, i interviewed meta's cmo earlier this week. one of the things he told me was that meta was looking at the x community notes platform for fact checking for a long time before they announced that that's what's going to be replacing their old fact checking efforts. they think that that's a pretty wise solution, be

and joe rogan was great. they were all good? another famous one, stand up, guy. is that byron?ore money than any country has thought about. he's going to take in some money. we have many others. we are going to sign some orders right now. that's really what i want to do. so we are going to sign an executive order. first i will revoke nearly 80 destructive and radical executive actions of the previous administration, maybe one of the worst -- not one of them, the worst. any one that would allow millions of people to pour over our borders from jails, prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums, gang members taken off the streets of venezuela and deposited in our country. crime in venezuela is down 74% because they took their criminals and gave them to us through an open border policy of the previous administration. all over the world, they are and seeing their prisons and mental institutions into our country -- they are emptying their prisons and mental institutions into our country. it stops as of one :00 this afternoon, ok? so i am revoking nearly 80 destructive, radical execu

joe rogan.ghts for years, and he just had zuckerberg on a new episode of his popular podcast, the joe rogan experience, that aired yesterday. >> we're also lucky that you got into jiu jitsu, because i think i think that had an effect on you. >> you look different when you walked in here today. you look thicker, you look like a different guy. you do. you look like a jiu jitsu guy. now. it's funny. i saw your neck. >> i'm like, his neck is bigger, your neck is bigger. good. >> yeah. big neck. thick, you know, plus joe rogan's blessing. what more does a man need to make it in maga world? molly, dean and angela are back with me. angela, your take on this whole transformation by zuckerberg, i mean, it's. we can joke around a little bit, but but it carries some serious and dangerous weight for a lot in this country. >> yeah, it really does for a lot of reasons. i mean, this isn't surprising. i mean, he's done this before. let's not forget that back in 2016, you know, after glenn beck, tucker carlson a

will: donald trump talked about on the joe rogan experience and recently mark zuckerberg from meta-wasgan experience talking about the kind of pressure that he got, facebook got from the biden administration to censor during covid. >> when they were trying to roll out the vaccine program, while they were trying to push that program they also tried to censor anyone arguing against it and they pushed us superhard to take down things that were true. they pushed us and said anything that says vaccines might have side effects you need to take down, and i was like we are not going to do that, we are not going to do that. that is inarguably true. >> he was weak and when i was reading about it, people were talking about him being presidential timber like you would run for president, there was a lot of talk about that. he is so brilliant. use weekend it is only now that the tide has turned that he feels safe to say he cooperated with the government to do which was to censor you and stifle -- >> crying up a baby on a podcast. he got yelled at. rachel: you didn't stand up for that. will: he's wee

leaders ended up edit media from tucker carlson to joe rogan to charlie kirk to megyn kelly are talking about this issue every single day. [applause] right now the biden administration imagine this they are scrambling to listen to vani and bands who dies on attack the 10,000 chemicals in it for that are banned in every of the country in preparation for president trump. president trump is forcing that. i seen it the past 20 days, he's giving a clear directed to bobby kennedy and the hhs. it's extraordinary. there's not one word of ideology in these meetings. many on the left won't believe this but trump is going to usher in a golden age of science. were going to get back to science. he's going to instruct the nih to have no ideology. he's going to start the nih with one simple directive. the good wife our kids are getting sick. he's going to usher in in a e of transparency. we need to trust the american patient, not intend allies you guys but with accurate information with no fear or favor and budget as the american patient make your own decision. there's going to be a golden age of dere

talk to you us about why you were first interested in the likes of joe rogan and the role they playede. davey: we recognized the power centers in media and technology were really shifting. i think that seeing joe rogan at the inauguration, actually in the capitol rotunda over the past weekend is really symbolic of the shifting media landscape. we wanted to understand what kind of power he had and the messages he and a cohort of other podcasters that are wildly popular on youtube, what they put out. we started to listen to these podcasts. we ended up analyzing almost 1300 hrs of footage. caroline: 2000 youtube videos over the last two years. how similar has the messaging been? davey: extremely similar. there are overlapping talking points. as way the podcasters painted a picture of america was that it is in a desperate place what -- with soaring inflation, migrant streaming across the border. public schools have gone too far with gender policies. it is stunning to see how often these messages are repeated. and the fact that this became more political as the election neared. caroline: a

i think is interview with joe rogan shed light on things we were told were true were actually ally andhink that woke people up. the way they respond to natural disasters, look at the way he's responding to california. >> trace: it really is, it's one of those things where you should go out on a high note. it doesn't appear to be a high note. "the washington post" writes the following, as biden exits the stage, democrats are uncharacteristically quiet. going on to say, was such little clarity on what went wrong rather than soaring farewell tributes to biden, most democrats are focused on how to battle a second trump team -- term rather. a contrast to how they treated biden eight years ago when his tenure as vice president concluded. i mean when he dropped out of the race, they all applauded like he's the greatest. now he's leaving the presidency and appears to be crickets. >> absolutely. it's crazy how they are quiet with joe biden and his record but they've been louder than ever during the senate confirmation hearings with these trump nominees. they are quiet because they know that bid

joe rogan. >> joe rogan. yeah. >> yeah, i have to.sievert knows whether joe rogan is the chief spokesperson. let's bring let's bring. >> him in. take a look at shares of t-mobile up over 7%. the telecom giant did report stronger than expected annual subscriber growth. they issued upbeat guidance, higher postpaid net customer additions. mike sievert, good to have you here. >> thanks for having me guys. >> and you know. >> we like to. >> ask the tough questions here. but i'm afraid i don't know, man. i mean, the only one i guess i have is are you confident that you can keep this up? because it was a very good quarter and a very good year being reflected in the stock price right now. what gives you the confidence, this kind of growth, this low churn will continue in 2025? yeah. you know david, first of all we just issued the highest. beginning of. year guidance ever in our history. >> it's kind. >> of. >> interesting because we've had a. storied growth. >> history in this company. >> and people, you know, they ask me once in a while like

you talk about zuckerberg, and he said all of this on the joe rogan experience. about the biden administration pushing him to censor, he talked about dei. but then everybody's sort of asking why is he doing this on that same interview, in that a same interview with joe rogan he kind of did talk about at least maybe one of his motivations, masculinity. >> it's one thing to say we want to be kind of, like, welcoming and make a gd environment for everyone. and i think it's another to basically say that a masculinity is bad. and i just think we kind of swung culturally to that part of the kind of the spectrum. i think having a culture that, like, celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive. will: i know you both are scoffing. i did see someone say this, that whatever mark zuckerberg's pivotal changes are, and there have been changes, right? it's because trump won, is it because it's good for business -- rachel: because he's with rogan? will: someone pointed out he has changed his tune since he took up mma. rachel: oh, yeah. charli

. >> meanwhile, on joe rogan's podcast, med meta's ceo, mark zuckerberg fired back, saying the bidened and curse at. watch this. >> basically these people from the biden administration would call up our team and scream at them and basically got to the point where we were like no, we're not going to take down things that are true. that's ridiculous. we said no, we're not going to take down humor and satire, we're not going to take down things that are true, all these different agencies and branches of government basically just like started investigating coming after our company. it was brutal. >> and you know, maria, this goes back to the issue of free speech and that is something that many americans have felt has been hampered during the last four years of this administration and mark zuckerberg, look, he's running a business, maria. you know. we know that very well. but to have a government telling you this is how you're supposed to run your business and then getting yelled at, it's unbelieve ability, those comments. maria: it's even more than that. you're talking about 1,000 people

do joe rogan, do all these guys and we did. [applause] we did. and joe rogan was great. barron, they were all good. he understood the market. another famous one. how about kai. stand up, kai. [applause] is that byron donalds back there? stand up byron. stand up. what a future this one has. what a future. that's great, byron. thank you very much. how about lutnick? secretary of commerce. he is going to take in more money than any country has ever even thought about. he is going to take in some money. and we have many others. look, i'm not going to go through it. but we're going to sign some orders right now. and that's really what i want to do. we're going to sign executive orders, first i will revoke nearly 80 destructive and radical executive actions of the previous administration, one of the worst administrations in history. maybe the -- not one of them. the worst. anybody that would allow millions of people to pour through our borders from jails, prisons, mental institutions and insane asylums, gang members to be taken off the streets of venezuela and deposited in our

the joe rogan interviewed became a thing at the end. and even charlamagne from the breakfast club who has been and can be provocative but has shown himself in that platform to be a huge platform for reaching the working class and young people. we go to these places with caution and have these conversations that are supposed to be candid and real in such a rigid and confusing way that does not resonate, so we have a messaging problem and will continue to if we are playing by the old book. when i worked in the obama white house, we had the first office of digital strategy, focusing on twitter and facebook at the time . i don't remember when instagram came to be. at any rate, that was new media we were dipping into. we have not gone beyond that. we don't have an office of cultural strategy but we are going to the cultural platforms the majority of people are consuming because they are not consuming news. we don't even play in those places by going there to talk directly to people in ways that people understand. when we do have these big ra

mark zuckerberg had harsh words during his appearance on the joe rogan experience podcast saying, theyheir game. >> they have used that platform to put in place a lot of rules, i think that feel arbitrary and feel like they have not really invented anything great in a while. steve jobs invented the iphone and now they are just kind of sitting on it, 20 years later. >> zuckerberg also talked about facebook's move to fact checkers in his thoughts on the trump administration and much more. some have some in silicon valley questioning his rhetoric and his policy shift. >> let's talk about this. it was in many ways harder and more broad than what we have seen from other leaders in silicon valley. others were outspoken, long before was trendy or before it was convenient with trump about to take office. a few of the ways i've heard zuckerberg shift discuss in the tech community includes words like opportunistic, disingenuous, finalist. the irony of him saying apple doesn't innovate was not lost on many who called them out for buying instagram and whatsapp and making copycats of snap and twitt

on joe rogan's podcast for three hours. just open up and be fresh and be authentic.ould have won, but i think it would have been a lot. i think we would have seen a different result. i think they overmanaged her, so i want to apply your teachings to this current moment in america. >> yeah, it was a close election. donald trump had a lot running against him and he made a comeback, and he was able to capitalize on real world issues, including clearly the economy. and he won by about a point and a half, not a big margin compared to recent elections. what should, in your view, any group out of power, the way the democrats are now based on these teachings that you've been mining in ancient history, what should they do as powerless or out of power to deal with the incumbent that's in power? >> well, first of all, as we were talking about earlier, they've become too mesmerized by donald trump. everything is kind of a reaction to what he does. right? and one of the laws is control the options. you have to put yourself in control of the dynamic, and the democrats need to cut

do joe rogan do all these guys? and we did, we did. and joe rogan was great. they were all great, right? they were all good. he understood the market. another famous one. how about kai? stand up kai. is that byron donalds back there? stand up byron, stand up. what a future this one has. a lot of future. that's great byron, thank you very much. and how about lutnick? secretary of commerce. he's going to take in more money than any country has ever even thought about. he's going to take in some money and we have many others. look, i'm not going to go through it, but we're going to sign some orders right now. and i'm that's really what i want to do. so we're going to sign the executive orders first. i'll revoke nearly 80 destructive and radical executive actions of the previous administration, one of the worst administrations in history. maybe not one of them. the worst. anybody that would allow millions of people to pour through our borders from jails, prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums, gang members to be taken off the streets of venezuela and deposit