the secret of their pan pie started in 1959 when joe santucci, joe senior, left the beat as a phillyo start making signature tomato pie with his wife, fill mean a. and these pies or notly in no cheese, because at the time of the depression no one could afford it. >> my father didn't start until 1906, didn't start putting cheese on the pie. >> when they did, the cheese went on the bottom. >> my brother franky and i really were the only ones that kept the business going and kept my father's original trade going. >> taught by his dad and grandfather in the kitchen is joe's son, joseph the third. >> this is everything my grand pop always wanted to become, you know, and thankfully my dad brought it to that level. >> while i'm about to level out of piece of their garlic white pie with rick could the a cheese. >> oh, look at the crust on the edges. and their classic red with joe's own sausage recipe. >> that's our trademark sign right there. >> oh, she can eat. >> he said she can eat. >> pretty funny. that's like torture, on this shift it is like lunchtime for us, right? >> and how good for