elizabeth karen said goofy real done add trump with guy for the best words that's a lame nickname and joe scarboro said rapidly fading whatever joe scar borough. here's the thing, again, if he is taking on owe elizabeth warren and he's taking on you know those are two opposite ends of spectrum in a way. what's the point of this other than to just keep him hammer ago way at something. >> i don't know no one is safe from i don't know if you want to call it wrath or nickname and one person who has not gotten nickname is bernie sanders ought there defending bernie sanders against hillary clinton. >> he wants bernie sand others to run against independent. elizabeth warn is only dem extraic senator who has not backed hillary clinton. >> what do i think about the democrats. >> they have a beggar problem than they're willing toll admit this has gone beyond exercise in debating you know this is not the oxford forum we're looking at here. they have a disillusionment with large segment of elector at and those bernie sanders people are not there for the heck of it and until hillary clinton is able to speak to

msnbc's joe scarboro may have talked up trump but now he says this. >> i can tell you, i'm never going vote for a guy that is saying he is going to ban somebody just because of the god they worship. >> that's a reference to trump wanting a temporary ban on muslim immigrants. steven haze just wrote a piece titled, no trump. we sat down here in studio 1. welcome. >> how are you? >> as an outspoken trump critic, are you in an uncomfortable position of donald trump is going to be the nominee of what has always been the conservative party? >> yeah. i made arguments against donald trump for several months. you don't like to lose arguments. i think it's important as a journalist that somebody who has dedicated my career to tell the truth to keep telling the truths, whether they're uncomfortable for me or not. >> trump has never tried to be the candidate of the weekly standard or national review. yet, he went out and he sold his vision to 10 million republican voters and all kinds of states. could it be that he is more in touch with what those republican voters want than you? >> certainly, tho