this morning on "morning joe," joe scarborough points out how he believes mitt romney's team or mittomney is not up in a way that karl rove, as he pointed out, and even george bush regarding the importance of the latino vote. >> that's absolutely right. what is happening, arizona is the perk example with jan brewer. 73% of babyboomers, 65 or oriole, are white. compared to 20% who are 18 and younger are white. you see a huge dem gratic change where the majority of young people in arizona are either latino or black. people of color. it is not a surprise the demographic changes are creating a political pools along ideological lines. however what both karl rove and president bush knew, in order to win the white house, they need 40% of the latino vote across the spectrum. across states in order to win the white house. and i think that's one of the reasons why mitt romney right now is back pedaling saying he supports the rubio plan for the dream action. he is bringing in hispanic outreach person. the rnc is. to ensure they can start talking to latinos about the issues they care about which

trillion of irresponsible budget busting tax cut into unpaid wars, even a staunch conservative like joe scarborough concedes president bush has the worst fiscal track record of any president. did you vote for president bush? would you agree? >> guest: let's get a response from our guests. >> guest: if i like clinton or bush, the clinton batter. i think you're missing the point here, and a tea party again is not republican. i personally don't consider myself to be a republican. i think most are independent. some are republican because they are conservatives and republican is more likely conservatives and then the democrat party at this moment in history. i am not here to defend the republican party and neither is tea party movement. i think you are confusing the are confusing republicanism a tea party is on. >> host: but many agree the analysis the college is made of the bush president? >> guest: i cannot tell you how many have been to rate their frail as arguably against president bush and his failure to carry the mantle of limited government as they did against president obama. i mean, they have n

chief white house controversy and politico director for msnbc news and joe scarborough host of morning joe on msnbc. i want to start with chuck. just 24 hours ago there was a partisan back and forth about whether or not the president was exploiting the one-year anniversary of the getting osama bin laden. now we see a change, it seems, to after more bipartisan support for troops and for this big decision we are making about afghanistan. >> well, you are seeing a change in phone, politically. you see a john mccain lindsay graham. mitt romney toned back the criticism he was talking about with the issue of whether the obama was politicizing this issue. but because of this agreement that is being signed, if you will, and what they have agreed to do, an agreement to have an agreement about what the u.s. military press sense going to be in afghanistan after 2014. that is what the president is announcing and what he's agreed to. there will be a military presence. not the same as it is now. not combat troops. not out front. but there will be a presence in afghanistan until 2024 and there are a

with some compensations, joe scarborough on "morning joe" and msnbc made this point. if obama believes strongly, as the coverage suggested, that this is such a moral issue, why isn't he saying i will press the states to change their laws? it's a whole question of states rights when the issue was segregation, for example, played very differently. >> clearly he has taken a very comfortable position here personally. you heard that word. personally i'm for it, but it's up to the states to decide the issue. so he is clearly not going to get out and campaign for it on a federal level. >> it's duck and cover, right? >> in some ways. matt sort of explains why he chose robin roberts for the interview. not that she's not a great intufr, but you imagine if it were david gregory or george stephanopoulos. they may have pushed them on this, and, sure, he came out and personally backed this, but he is not going to put any real political capital on the line. >> and on to the politics of it. the coverage was mostly about -- the president as presidents often do, framed the terms of the

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let me play what joe scarborough, a native of florida, had to say on his program, "morning joe." >> itis such a republican state. and going down to palm beach, broward, and talking to some jewish leaders down there over the past couple years, there is a supreme disconnect between barack obama and the people that helped democrats year in and year out. >> what are your thoughts on that comment from joe? >> well, if he is about jewish voters specifically, this has been a long running theme. in the obama administration. the jewish voters were not happy about his approach to the middle east peace situation. i think there is a divide situation about how he is handling iran. at the end of the day, i haven't seen, there is a lot of anecdotal evidence that this is a big problem for him. i haven't seen it numerically. in a state like florida you might have a higher portion of the population and it could be a factor. i have yet to see that it is a decisive thing and i would say i think on iran, there is not that much space between obama and romney on this issue. romney talks tougher but the polic

so i want to get straight to it, to duval patrick with joe scarborough this morning. here he is. >> i think when he left office, it was in the fours, about 4.3 was the national average. >> that's pretty good. >> yeah. it was about -- by the time he left, it was about what the national rate was. i think it had trailed the national rate, been higher than the national rate for most of his time. at the time he left, i think that's about right. >> all right, ben, your surrogate seems to be a little off message. >> well, you know, we need to take a look at where massachusetts ranked compared to other states during mitt romney. when he came into office, massachusetts ranked 36th out of 50th in job creation and it slipped to 47th under mitt romney. manufacturing jobs declined by twice the national average. that's because of the policy that say romney pursued as governor, similar ones to those that he would pursue today. he cut funding for manufacturing in massachusetts. he vetoed legislation that would have prevented outsourcing. he cut programs essential for the middle class

the panhandle, the red neck rif era, ask joe scarborough, that's the south. they still fly con 23ed rat flags and the middle of the state used to be a farming area, a huge suburb now and southern florida, very, very different places. you're right from the perspective that when you -- when someone comes in, corporate raids, you lose your job, you have lost your job. you have lost your house. you now had to move and move in with family members and that is a bad, bad story to have to be told over and over again. by the way, the obama campaign will do that again and again and again all across the country. >> to your point, a.b., let me bring you in the first points out, the bain story continues to chase romney as he is in south florida, miami, and then onto tampa. if it is risky business with joe biden and some of the language that you're not fond of that he used in ohio, is it risky business for mitt romney to -- if this narrative of the rich guy who doesn't care continues to chase him? is it risky for him to give the appearance that he is running from it and no

i mean, i think joe scarborough put it very good in a blog where he talked about the fact that what is obama and karzai going to do that, you know, the russians and the british and alexander the great couldn't do in that part of the world? so that's the historical problem here, is that you're dealing with a tribal people who don't conform to the western rules of engagement and nation building, so it presents a longer-term problem that i think the president admitted to last night, and i think romney has put a little asterisk on yesterday's speech saying we will revisit this issue during the course of this campaign, but you're right, the job numbers come first. >> will this be a campaign issue, though, do you think, jamie? >> look, i don't think foreign policy is going to be a big area in this campaign, and that's because president obama's foreign policy is widely seen as popular. so i don't think there will be a big issue here. there will be some debate, there will be some disagreements on syria and some other things, but, i mean, i'm here really to talk as a foreign policy person. i do

let me play what joe scarborough said whether or not he thinks voters care about the silindra scandal. >> americans don't care any more than they care about what mitt romney did 87 years ago at bain capital. they care about getting back to work. >> what we do no is that for both president obama and governor romney bain and solyndra what they plan at least for the next few weeks focus on. >> >> absolutely. they both have the attack ads and you can question the facts on either side but this is what they believe is going to work best. the obama folks are trying to get romney in a difficult position and they're not happy with his business credentials and they poll too well and the same goes for romney. he is trying to portray the president as being weak on the economy. >> do you think joe has a point that no one cares or maybe just perhaps people at his circle don't care about it? >> i think people care about a variety of things. obviously the economy trumps everything else. at the margins and when people are thinking about who they're talking about as people because of course like abilit

. >> and let me play this clip from joe scarborough this morning regarding what he believes the obama it comes to mitt romney. >> you want a clean argument, it is this. oh, governor romney is good at creating jobs. really? 47 out of 50? i don't know. where i come from, my parents wouldn't even think i was doing well in class if i was 47th out of 50th. >> that likely may come. right now the president is starting hitting at bain and his team may certainly move to the argument of records for the record for governor romney when he was in massachusetts but one of the other concerns according to the analysts if you bring up massachusetts, he then does not look like a severe conservative as he attempted to portray himself early on. >> correct. i think that the obama campaign has been very deliberate and deliberated about how they want to roll out their efforts to define mitt romney. they started by talking about what he himself is talking about which is bain and his business experience. i would expect even salt lake city and the olympics to come into the discussion because that is another pi

he was kind of heckled by joe scarborough this morning. as ed rendell said you might find 32 other economists who would go the other direction but they're at least predicting 7.9% by election day. how big of a difference is that from the number we're seeing today? >> i don't think very much. yes, symbolically to have a 7 in the headline instead of an 8 is positive. you welcome that and you take it i? thought you were saying if the arrow was down, that would be down from the number we're seeing today. >> it's better. but i'm saying that if you got unemployment at that level, you still have many, many millions of americans who can't find work. and people not feeling like this recovery is really taking off. that's the key point. that's not to say the president can't get reelected. i think right now with the gdp growth we have, somewhere between 2% and 3%, i'm not sure how it will shake out by the end of the year. and a gradually improving job market, it may be just enough for the president to get by. >> let me let you have the last word on th

. >> within hours the booker released what joe scarborough said looked like a hostage video. >> let me be leer. mitt romney has made his business record a centerpiece of his campaign. >> the liberals went off on booker, especially at msnbc, especially chris matthews. >> i want you to just hold while we watch the president now do this very intricate response to what the mayor of newark said yesterday, which i think was an act of sabotage. whatever the intention was, he was trashing the entire obama campaign in one appearance on "meet the press." >> are the media bringing more heat than light to the debate over romney's business record? joining us here in washington ann, deputy national political editor of the washington post, and roger simon, political columnist for politico. roger simon, why do liberal commentators complain when a politician like cory booker actually says something interesting as opposed to towing the party line? >> because it's off message. >> how is it our job to enforce politicians being on message? >> it's the exact opposite of our job, but whenever we see a politi

secondly, barack obama told robin roberts that he was taking the joe scarborough position. the william f. buckley position. the ron paul position. the federalism position. the 10th amendment position. the state's rights position. that we're going to let states decide about gay marriage. this is as conservative a position, and with all due respect to what mark said yesterday, nobody that i know in the media believes this. everybody in the media that i talk to behind closed doors thinks the federal government should come in and declare gay marriage constitutional. so, again, i think this is a shameful episode for the mainstream media, who covered up for barack obama's hypocrisy all along, saying i'm evolving on this issue. to now making it even worse by claiming that a statement that means absolutely nothing, i think "the new york times" said was a historic moment for gay marriage. it just wasn't. it was nothing. >> well, in my estimation, it was nothing historic or heroic about what the president said. 1996, the president had the exact same position. by 2004, when he was run

the event was in seed by joe scarborough and mika brzezinski.this is a little more than two hours. >> ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of the atlantic council, its chairman, senator chuck hagel and president and ceo fred kemp, good evening, and welcome to the atlantic council's 2012 annual awards dinner. >> this is our fourth time as in seas of this event, and we keep coming back because we so deeply believe in the organization and its mission. and also because we love fred. >> and, of course, you. you are so lovable right now. so lovable and so respectful. >> maybe we should have a prayer. >> can we pray? let us pray. that doesn't work year. unit, that nation of course of the atlantic council is to constantly renewed and refreshed the atlantic community. [inaudible conversations] >> the mission of the atlantic council is to constantly renewed and refreshed the atlanta committee. it's partnerships around the world. and to take on a host of global challenges. and we have so many of them. iranian nukes, afghanistan, the eurozone crisis, and contain

circa '83. >> do understand on the scarborough "morning joe" website there is this whole fashion thing let me tell you something. no matter how well you think that jacket might look air not getting into the club. >> all right. 38 past the hour. >> thank you, captain. >> that was one of donnie's many outfits last month on "morning joe" and now our next guest came to his defense. we still don't know why. on twitter. joining us now kathy ireland the ceo and chief designer of the billion dollar brand kathy ireland worldwide and was featured on the cover of "forbes" magazine in february. kathy, welcome. great to have you on the show. you've got the proper color. >> thank you, mika. back at you. >> you look fantastic. >> thank you. >> what is this donnie thing? why do you come to the defense of donnie deutsch when he clearly does not deserve defense? >> oh, my goodness. well he doesn't need my defense. but look at donnie. >> yes he does. >> he has an individual style and flair. he celebrates it. i love it. >> don't hate just because she loves. >> i look at models as well as athletes. the old

today on "morning joe" joe sc scarborough said corey book ser fighting for his political life after the here is what chris mat matthews described it yesterday on "hardball." why does mayor booker, why did he choose to choose sides against the president yesterday and say i'm with private equity against the president? the president's campaign is wrong. he didn't say the president was part right. >> and it went on. in fact, you can go online and see more. cory booker told rachel maddow that he's, quote, being used by the gop and he's fit to be fid about it. so what does your gut tell you? will booker's career survive the bain incident? go to phasebook.com/newsnation to cast your vote. i'm tamron hall. my colleague martin bashir is up next. [ female announcer ] aging may slow a dog down, but iams helps keep dogs playing year after year with our age-specific nutrition. and now, even for dogs 11 and older with new iams senior plus. it helps boost the immune response to that of an adult dog and helps fight signs of aging. [ dog ] i'll never be a bench-warmer. [ female announcer ] new iams seni

>> joe scarborough gave the best argument for the re-election of barack obama that i ever heard and the. >> all right. >> the concrete momeronkite mom waiting for it -- >> way too early. >> historians will refer to it as when willie spoke. >> that's uncle willie. >> if it's way too early? >> it's "morning joe." we'll see you back here tomorrow. stick around now for chuck. >>> thank you, william. romney's rivals were right. they always said it would come down to texas, but instead of being down and out, texas gives romney enough delegates to clinch the nomination. and he's not the lone star in the news today. it's some down ballot results that are turning heads. we'll have more on that. >>> and romney raises cash with the number one birth certificate authenticity enthusiast. is this a distraction that romney can afford to have with less than five months to go before election day?

>> joe scarborough gave the best argument for the re-election of barack obama that i ever heard and the. >> all right.

nashville, tennessee, regardless of how many times you may read it or hear it onrush limbaugh or joe scarboroughor someplace else. you hear it every day and it's still not true. i challenge anyone if they have that evidence, let's see it. so again, i wanted to -- i just think that what the republicans have offered as an offset is not serious. i just can't believe they want to really do away with the prevention of public health fund. on the other hand, is our proposal serious? do we really want to close this loophole on the sub chapter s? yes, we do. i think that is serious, because there has been a lot of abuse of people using the cover of sub chapter s to avoid paying their correct share of taxes. a number of cases have come before us. i have seen where people have used the sub chapter s as a means of paying their fair share of taxes. one of the -- one of the examples that just came through was -- was former senator john edwards of north carolina, a former member of this body, former presidential candidate, vice-presidential candidate. i'm not going to get into his personal stuff. that's someth