that joe scarborough may have been involved in his intern's death. that there was something fishy about the suicide of vince foster, a former clinton aides. he started the birther movement and offered president obama $5 million for his college records and passport. trump raised questions about senator marco rubio's eligibility to be president because his parents were not born in the u.s. trump conveniently ignored the fact that his own mother wasn't born in the u.s. trump also raised similar eligibility questions about senator ted cruz because he was born in canada. president trump went on to claim that president obama wiretapped trump tower. his own justice department publicly said this did not happen. trump claimed he saw and read about muslim americans celebrating on 9/11. absolutely no footage or news articles have ever been found to support this. he said he lost the popular vote because millions of people voted illegally. a commission he put together to find this widespread fraught never found any. he's argued that global warming is a hoax creat

i want to play something, this is something joe scarborough said, a former republican, now he hangs outith the heavies in manhattan and florida. he is basically warning people implicitly about if you work for this president beware what will happen to you in the future, watch. >> what happens to people who destroy their legacy? does trump thank you for destroying your legacy, by showing you have no respect for the rule of law? what happens to those people? let me answer, they get thrown out. >> laura: essentially, you have no future, you are over. >> what a shame and joe scarborough, shame on him, he knows better. his show has become "morning joke" and he has become the joke. when you have that kind of attitude, when you don't agree with me come you don't have the right to a job, you don't have the right to feed your family or go to a movie, to pump gas in your car or to even enjoy a baseball game or to travel through an airport, to change plans, you know have no right e you don't agree with me, that the tragic place for people to get when they are so very threatened by the opinion of so

this is what joe scarborough said. watch. >> going up against an incumbent, it's about contrast. and there is a great contrast there. you have very hopeful, all almost ronald reagan-esque visions. where this country can be. you see a lot of smiles, a lot of hugs. >> laura: is that it? a lot of smiles and a lot of hugs? he had a lame turn out today in iowa. he's not appearing much on the campaign trail -- i will get to that in just a moment. but chris, again, another attempted, you know, list of biden. >> it is, and his campaign team has really got to be -- has got to be struggling right now with how to handle it, because they don't want to run, they try a bit of a rose garden strategy, doing interviews. that didn't work out. it's a must like they're trying and "weekend at bernie's" strategy, roll him out, then roll him back before he can say or do anything that might be a problem. i don't think you're going to see many more speeches like the one you showed clips of before, the union hall. now that you have msnbc, joe scarborough trying to tout his tv ads -- >> laura: reagan asked

joe scarborough is one of the faces most out front asking questions about donald trump's donors and what they're donating to. >> right. as a result of today everyone running these democratic hopeful campaigns, they're figuring out their answers to that question right now because that's going to be a question that goes down the line at those debates. another question that's a by-product of that, and this is in terms of the whole party, is this party going to continue to try to reach a slice of the rural, midwestern voters who turned out very strongly for trump and are still sticking by him? if the democratic candidates believe that they're supporting a white supremacist or are they going to try to go a more progressive route and bring in new voters, women of color, latino voters, more african-americans? i think it's also going to potentially change the way the party approaches voter outreach. just that, it's amazing how a small statement like that is going to have major implications in the next debate and the next course of this race. >> and i guess part of me is surprised it took so long

we have been doing with the federal government and federal agencies -- >> laura: in mourning joe scarborough. touting his nickname for mitch m cconnell being put to music watch. >> ben folds, moscow mitch. full was impressed by the term and said it inspired a new song which he debuted last night. ♪ >> laura: i love it actually. >> we need to get a full recording of moscow mitch. it's going global. >> laura: oh, my gosh. no one in america knows what they are talking about it. it reminded me of a songngth modifyed to praise a certain former president. obama is on fire \m >> the trump economy is on fire. she has pipes. how many more songs do we need to ruin on cable television? >> oh, laura, i have a list of 4 beatles remakes in order after the last democratic debate when they took shots at president obama. obama's lonely hearts club band. i don't want to hold obama's hand. obama gets a ticket to ride and you have to hide obama away. those would be great. >> laura: [laughing]. last night cnn jim acosta seemed disappointed about the trump rally he recovered. >> there was some ugliness that broke

elected representatives should not be vilifying and documenting constituents but joe scarborough agrees with castro tweeting any business that donates to trump is complicit and endorses the white supremacy has browsed in charlottesville with his send her back chance and laughing at shout that hispanic immigrants should be shot. donors names are on fec reports. some text democrats telling the president to stay away, even the el paso mayor, a republican is making clear he is not thrilled but he will welcome the president in his official capacity. what does chairman of the el paso republican party think? good to have you with us. tell us how your community is doing. >> nice being with you also. the community has a lot of healing to do, not just the individuals who were hurt but the families that are involved. law enforcement saw some tragedies and some carnage nobody should have to see and the community as a whole clearly reacted because that's not something we expected in el paso. el paso is 80% hispanic, we get along, we work together and it was evident when they said they need water, th

programs may work in a general election but it won't work with democratic primary voters >> john, joe scarboroughed last night this is stupid. why are they going after each other? even obama's policies and not trump. did you see it that way? too much in-fighting >> i did i think it was a good debate for donald trump and the republican party. you had serious attacks going back and forth last time we had joe biden being attacked on whether he was too in league with segregationists kamala harris was attacked by tulsi gabbard on whether she held evidence in a capital murder case. that's a serious thing to say about somebody biden going after cory booker's record on policing in the city of newark. jay insley going after biden it seems earlier in the process for democrats to go full on after each other or republicans for that matter. usually you have a gradual work up once the field narrows to the more negative exchanges back and forth. they're going early with that. >> you remember when george moorman mathe foreman came back and everybody said he was too old, he took the bunches and then leveled peopl

it may be thanks to former florida republican congressman and current msnbc morning joe host joe scarborough. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is not happy to have this new nickname. he has to be reelected in kentucky first if he wants to stay majority leader yet he has blocked legislation critics say would stop the kind of interference russia carried out hence the moscow mitch nickname. it got air time last night in the democratic debate. >> mitch mcconnell is the one that lets him off the hook they -- his friend mitch mcconnell moscow mitch let him off the hook. >> the "new york times" reports mitch mcconnell is quote incensed by the name and more mythed he has been called a russian asset. the kentucky democratic party is capalizing on this dispute selling items including but not limited to this t shirt with the words. this week the majority leader publicly defended himself on a speech on the senate floor. >> i was called unpatriotic, unamerican and essentially treason s. i was accused of aiding and abetting the very man i singled out as an adversary and opposed for nearly 20 years,

. ♪ >> well, president trump is back on offense against former friends joe scarborough. y've lost their juice, wow, morning joe and psycho ratings have clashed. people are tired of hearing fake news, anger not to be believed. they helped me get elected, thanks. actually morning joe, no cycle, highest ratings this year but with dip in second quarter, mika fired back. >> my anger, i'm not angry, don't worry, donald, i'm not angry, i'm sad and disgusted when pathetic politicians don't stand up to your racism, your racism, too afraid to, that's sad and pathetic to watch. >> president trump thanked for putting him on the air before huge falling out. the president pulled nomination of john ratcliffe of director of national intelligence blaming what he called unfair coverage by the mainstream media, the gop congressman did not prosecute a major terrorism case as he had claimed, playing essentially a research role and did not as he had said arrest 300 illegal immigrants in one day and it was only 45 and played a supporting role. solid reporting with number of nominees and he said

something to build on and not attack, paraphrasing what he has, because -- the hill this headline, joe scarboroughlasting 2020 democrats for attacking obama's policies more than donald trump. msnbc morning joe anchor slamming the 2020 democratic presidential candidates, saying they were spending more time attacking former president obama's policy than president trump during the second round of primary debates. he wrote that these candidates are attacking barack obama's policy positions more than donald trump, that is politically stupid and crazy. anchor,ents from msnbc a frequent trump critic came as democratic presidential candidates targeting policies joe biden helped oversee during the obama administration. mary from marietta, georgia, democratic line. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, mary. caller: i watched the debate on the democrats and republicans. when i watch the republicans debate, nobody seemed to run against donald trump. all of them were there for show. the democrats are bringing biden down, trying to make their points. scarborough, that was so wrong they would do that. they are

history, and you are reporting on the president of the united states, you look at somebody like joe scarboroughmedia covered up for other people. the media are manufacturing the pseudo events with trump. there is a legitimate separations of powers battle between congress and the executive branch. and they accuse him of obstruction. pete: why were they covering up for previous presidents? was it patriotic duty? mark: franklin roosevelt went after the media. they were getting the telegrams with western union to see what some of these news operations had been saying. franklin roosevelt put in an operative in the fec and changed the licensing rules so he could put the squeeze on them to make sure they were doing the quote-unquote the right thing. pete: they didn't like nixon or reagan. mark: nixon was impeached and one of the things he was impeached for were thinks he inherited from johnson and kennedy. he paid a price, they did not. even bill clinton. he took a long time for the media to latch on to what he had done, his lies under oath and what he had done in the oval office. i have a whole secon

he is home nursing what appear to be actual wounds from joe scarborough's birth of the phrase moscow mitch, something about russia, that was a new feeling for the senate majority leader. could it be that this man who also must get re-elected in kentucky to continue to be majority leader feels pressure? >> he doesn't feel pressure from his re-election campaign. he feels he's well positioned in a state president trump handily won. at the same time, when you interpret his language and position right now, you see a majority leader who knows so many of his lawmakers like corey gardner in colorado and susan collins in maine face tough re-election fights. the can't go back in the summer recess and talk about inaction. he's been open in his public words to some kind of legislation if there is bipartisan support. but actions speak in washington, and remember, as he said, he's not bringing the senate back to a session, and until he leans in and gives some of his political capital, until the president gives his own political capital to any kind of effort, whether it's red flags or background ch

neo-nazi, depraved, treasono treasonous, serial liar, mentally ill -- to me, that all sounds like joe scarborough? what else do they push? russia collusion, lies, the dossier, live, impeachment, bizarre, obstruction, live, so course the public is turning on the press, and the president has every right to defend himself. i brought a few books, a few books i'm sure journalist don't have the capacity to read. they like this one. the dangerous case of donald trump by dr. lee, who is that? i don't know, but they found her at yale. what did she decide, having never met or talked to the president or anything else? she and 27 of her colleagues decided the president is mentally ill and shouldn't be president. guess what, they pulled that same one in 1964 against barry goldwater. the american psychiatric association told him to cut it out! but they don't cut it out. that's our media today. see this book? it's called propaganda. during the woodrow wilson administration. do you know who likes this book? our media like this book. they position them and project on top of them. another book. this gentleman was

i love my good friend, joe scarborough. it's about hate, the greatest word we have. love the most universal hated word is hate. we can't let go of two weeks ago he tweeted and stood up, send them back to immigrants or to people of color. two weeks later in a manifesto that mimicked just about everything, there was a slaughter. that is a fact, no greater articulation of heat. if the media keeps alive that story and does not let the parade pass there is not a political issue between now and 2020 that could not somehow tie back to that story. let it live nearly everyday. at the same time, raise $12 billion to get rid of assault weapons and at the same time we can get those two jerk-offs out of office. >> those reluctant to engage trump in the news cycle. susan rice, former national security advisor, most dangerously, president trump is serving up to our adversaries an ever more divided and weakened america, one with suspicion and incapable of the external threats. russia, above all, continues to exploit and exacerbate these divisions. president obama very reluctant and

meantime, msnbc host joe scarborough said today for voters who may think that elizabeth warren is tooiberal for america, the alternative is much worse. watch. >> at least she won't threaten the safety of members of the press. at least she won't inspire mass shootings. >> he was a once g.o.p. congressman. he added that she would respect the constitution norms and that congress would, "balance her out." >> tammy: all right, trace. thank you very much. i don't know if we want somebody who needs to be balanced out in that way. but, thank you, trace. collian is a lawyer and second amendment advocate and he joins us. thank you for joining us tonight. a lot of scary things. major american politicians, candidates for president of the united states suggesting things that are more, something that more than you would hear in china. it's concerning that the high level individuals think that the things would work. let me ask you, sir. if there were some kind of national confiscation program, do you think americans would comply? >> no, i highly doubt it, actually. if you think about it, the last ti

why would joe scarborough ever apologize for throwing out a conspiracy theory that the russians somehowcy the killing of jeffrey epstein? why would msnbc ever apologize for putting on a former fbi assistant director who said that the president was only re-raising flags on 88 because that's a bat signal to neo-nazis? o if there is never any accountability, of course nothing's going to happen.n. and as for "the hunt," try to picture a world where supporters of elizabeth warren or alexandria ocasio-cortez are hunted and gunned down by pro-trump supporters and thenow tried to picture the media reaction. the pitchforks and torches store would run out of them and be on backorder for months and the media reaction would be apocalyptic, probably linking that back to the next mass shooting and saying this is what incited that violence and so i think the president deserves credit. he said, "the movie coming out, "the hunt," is made in order to inflame and cause chaos. they create their own violence and then try to blame others." that is precisely right and that is why that movie was pulled a day o

that's a name given to mitch mcconnell by joe scarborough. so senator klobuchar compared to some other candidates is a very serious candidate. i'm happy to see her as part of the gang of eight right now which will most likely be ten. let's pray it doesn't go to 11 where we have to endure marianne williamson who is fantastic with her memes but i'd rather see these democratic candidates whittled down to about 6 or 7 will be the most realistic candidates to take on donald trump en2020. >> marianne williamson is not going to be happy with you. >> that's okay. >> that is not the message she's hoping for. >> there were a lot of people who did take her performance and say it jumped out. so there are people who have a different view than the one you just heard. >>> democrats in the house very close to reaching a milestone that adds pressure on house speaker nancy pelosi. so we'll speak to a democrat who now supports starting impeachment proceedings. next. ur lines, it's all included for the whole family, starting with unlimited data. use as much as y

they're still talking about he's a foreign agent of russia, john meechum and joe scarborough. this is not a real -- this is not a paper tiger, it's a real tiger in beijing. >> the size of their economy is enormous compared to the soviet union. they're $14 trillion, we're $19 trillion. in the case of soviet union, they never got to 10% of our gdp size. here's somebody already 2/3 of the way. they grow three times faster than we do. so our doom of becoming a chinese colony is clear, it's a question of how much time until trump began to fight back. >> one of these other issues that i want to get to, another misconception about trade is that it's all hurting our exports. we'll put up the full screen here. but, as we can see, our exports in the first half of 2016 is -- you know, over a trillion, they've gone up $200 billion, january to june of 2019. both our exports, even with the strong dollar, and our -- all of our imports and exports, look, that's january, june 2015. then the next, 2019. so, $200 billion. so, that's the -- maybe the idea that it's killing our trade. now, we have

joe scarborough agrees with castro tweeting "any business that donates to trump is complicit and endorses the white the princely he has sparked in charlottesville with his send her back chance and joking that immigrants should be shot. so some texas democrats telling the president to stay away and doxxing his supporters. the republicans are making it clear he's not thrilled but they will welcome the president and his official capacity. so what did the chairman of the official party think? can you tell us about how your community is doing this evening? >> you know, the media still has a lot of healing to do. it's not just individuals that are remaining or hurt, it's the families that are involved in law enforcement. law enforcement, they saw some tragedy and carnage that nobody should have to see. the community as a whole clearly reacted, that's not something we expected in el paso. el paso is 80% hispanic. we get along and we work together and it was evident when they said they needed water they got more than they needed. when they said they needed blood the line was -- they had to send p

may be thanks to former florida republican congressman and current msnbc "morning joe" host, joe scarborough. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is not happy to have this new nickname. not this one. mcconnell is running for his seventh term. of course he has to be re-elected in kentucky first if he wants to stay majority leader, yet he has blocked the legislation that the critics say would stop the kind of interference russia carried out in 2016, hence the moscow mitch nickname. it even got some air time in last night's democratic debate. >> if mitch mcconnell is the one that lets him off the hook they -- his friend mitch mcconnell moscow mitch let him off the hook. >> "the new york times" reports mitch mcconnell is, "incensed by the name and even more miffed that he has been called a russian asset. for once democrats seem to be getting to a man who has embraced his portrayal as darth vader and the grim reaper overseeing the senate graveyard for legislation he opposes." the kentucky democratic party is capitalizing on this dispute selling items including but not limited to this t shirt w

>> wow, that was my colleague joe scarborough, branding the senate majority leader moscow mitch after effort to block the senate from voting on election security bills last month. today there's more. mitch mcconnell underony over a brand-new story. it details how an aluminum plant in kentucky was built with the financial backing of a russian company, the same company. coincidence, maybe. the "post" spoke with critics saying it is shocking how blatantly transactional this arrangement looks. mcconnell's spokesman said mcconnell is not aware of any potential russian investor before the sanctions vote. but it's just one more example of the senate majority leader's promoscow policy inclinations. the post adding this, quote, in 2016, mcconnell privately expressed skepticism about the intelligence reports on russia's activities in the election and resisted a push by the obama administration to issue a bipartisan statement condemning the kremlin. last month he blocked consideration of election security bills that have bipartisan support. joining this conversation former assistant director for

i think that was our friend joe scarborough.lint, again, starting with you what, do we do if we don't have paper? and even with paper ballots, if we have screwed up reg lists and show up at 7:30 or 8:00 in the morning to vote and their name is not on the list and the poor volunteer has no idea how to record their vote, what happens then? >> it is just baffling. i think there is bipartisan support for beefing up these election systems. and they need hundreds of millions more. and the other problem is the previous money that went through was distributed evenly. but problem isn't even across all states. there are certain states that have severe weaknesses that don't have these verifiable audit trails or paper ballot backups. they are probably not going to be able to get there by 2020. the other problem is when you look at the mueller report, it lays out all these deficiencies when you go through the back parts of it. here's what happens in different states. if you know where the vulnerabilities are, it tells you how to target the u

in the week since joe scarborough started mitch mcconnell moscow mitch the label has stuck and used by democrats in kentucky in a way that has mitch mcconnell worried about his re-election campaign in kentucky. senator mcconnell got stuck with the label moscow mitch when he chose to repeatedly block legislation designed to strengthen our election system against another attack by the russian government. mitch mcconnell says the legislation is partisan. and that's why he blocked it. but that is not true. one of the bills mitch mcconnell blocked was written by a democrat and a republican. it has bipartisan support. the democrat who wrote that bill along with oklahoma republican senator james lankford knows how and when to work in a bipartisan way in the united states senate. but this week on the presidential debate stage, that senator was the most partisan democrat in the debates because that senator refused to criticize any democrats and only attacked donald trump. and here is that senator. on the senate floor today going after mitch mcconnell. >> we are about to adjourn this day without

joe scarborough, august 2016, during the campaign, while donald trump is effectively the nominee.eral months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise dronald trump and three times he asked about this -- this will pop over to the next screen -- the potential to use and deploy nuclear weapons. august 2016. he believed then and believes now this is a good, viable option for lots of things. okay, let's play some sound. the first one, i believe, this is from cris mathews interviewing candidate donald trump in the 2016 election about nuclear weapons and nuclear power. let's play that. >> first of all, you don't want to say, take everything off the table. >> no, just nuclear. >> you're a bad negotiator if you do. >> just nuclear. >> look, nuclear should be off the table, but when there could be a time when it could be used. >> the trouble is when you heard that, the whole world it. the japanese heard it. they're talking about a guy running for president of the united states about possibly using nuclear weapons. >> then why do we make them? >> right, so there

it impossible for mitch mcconnell to shake the nickname moscow mitch given to him by msnbc's joe scarboroughnell used his senate position to fight to lift sanctions on russia so that russians could invest in kentucky so that mitch mcconnell could then tell voters in his re-election campaign that he helped bring those russian-financed aluminum plant jobs to kentucky, then that would be a much more corrupt act than mere self-enrichment. joining our discussion now is michael bennett, democratic senator from colorado and a member of the intelligence committee. he is running for president. his campaign is now out with a new book "dividing america: how russia hacked social media and democracy." i want to start with the mcconnell situation. this is a stunning report by the "washington post." it's the weight of a book. it's a massive in-depth reporting. and to imagine the senate majority leader using his position this way is -- would be a stunningly corrupt act. >> i could never understand why that sanctions legislation didn't go through. it was a bipartisan bill on the floor -- >> 11 republicans fu

i guess my challenge, my question to all of you, my colleague joe scarborough has been taking a hard line on trump's donors. is that the next front of this? where do democrats take this message, karine? >> we have come -- we're in such a crazy time right now. it's hard to get through to people. i get what folks are trying to do. they're trying to send a message like it is not okay to support this guy. it is not okay. look what he is doing. look at the awful cruel policies, and i think it's a way to call people out and wake them up. if you support him, this is what you are supporting. now, you know, i understand the issues and the problems of doing that but i get the sentiment behind it. >> the urgency. >> the urgency of now, absolutely. >> and part of the privilege of being a wealthy person could be insulated from pressure, from public opinion, you can do what you want and money buys power. what we are seeing now is there are people who will go out there on the left and beyond and say, look, you can't have it both ways. you can't just say you support this president because you like s

that was our own joe scarborough skewerring mcconnell last week after mcconnell blocked two bipartisanbills that would have helped to secure our elections against ongoing russian attacks. mcconnell's determined blocking of the bills even got him labeled a russian asset by a friend of the show dana milbank in his "washington post" column. mcconnell was to the floor to express his umbrage and to cry out against mccarthyism. >> i was called unpatriotic, unamerican, and essentially treasonous by a couple left wing pundits on the basis of bold-faced lies. i was accused of aiding and a betting the very man i've singled out as an adversary and opposed for 20 years, vladimir putin. >> why so mad, mitch? "morning joe" wasn't even the first to coin the phrase moscow mitch. that honor goes to murray ward from kentucky in a local paper called the murray ledger and times on april 24. ward wrote that moscow mitch is benefiting from his direct and indirect ties to putin and russian oligarchs which guided his vote to lift russian sanctions in january 2019. now, he was referring to mcconnell and kentuc

. >> jon: you could add to that list joe scarborough doesn't like trump. >> first of all, i'm disappointedfrom the eagles. you can see joe walsh is really going for. >> jon: he did run for president wants. >> he would probably do better than this one, if he thinks it's going and could totaling with the morning joe crew who all agree with him that donald trump is terrible. if i don't know whether this is a stunt or not, i don't know whether this is sincere or whether this is a staunch but at this point, it doesn't matter. >> sandra: you guys are so good, can you stick around for more later this hour? we would appreciate that. >> we cannot fulfill the immigration process within 20 days, so in essence what that's led to its a significant part of what we refer to as catch and release. if the new regulation changes that. that's why it's a game changer. with this new regulation, we can hold families together in a healthy safe environment while they go through the immigration proceeding. >> jon: it allows the government to hold migrant families longer than the 20 days step forward in the 1997 flo

. >> by the way, joe scarborough here. half a year before iowa. >> right. >> a very long way to go before people start to vote. so you talked about new ideas. let's bring up an issue which of course you won't be able to answer in 60 seconds or so. but it's really an issue that's been at the heart of american unrest, american unrest now for years. i remember living in upstate new york in the early 1970s and for the first time seeing plants close down. some of them moving overseas to japan. i remember visiting a friend in pittsburgh in the early 1980s and watching that city -- the infrastructure of that city collapse. we have seen it now for almost 50 years and of course some cities have recovered. others have not. but there have been large segments of american society gutted from industrialization and the fact that machines, robots, automation, can now do the work of 200 people that used to fill up an assembly line. how do we get past that? because the pace is not slowing down. it's only quickening. >> right. and that's why

south carolina you did get key endorsements going to payne college and one of my dreams is to get joe scarborought don't want to see him dance. >> i'll do the dance. but you're hanging in this. do you think the party is moving too far to what is called the left? i'm a progressive. but too far to the left to get the ohios and other places in the middle that you're representing? >> i'm worried, rev. i think some of the lead candidates have taken positions that will lose 48 states and i'm trying to figure out what the two are that we're going to win. if you are talking about free healthcare for undocumented workers and the average person in these states we have to win are busting it to pay for healthcare for their own families and paying a lot of money for it. i think decriminalizing at the border is a mistake. you have to ring the door bell if you want to go in the door. it should be a crime. the single payor idea of telling people they can't have their private health insurance, you're going to all these union people in the industrial midwest and tell them they've negotiated away wages to get reall

. >> joy reid, joe scarborough had a good night in that we heard julian castro mention moscow mitch beforend of the evening. i've also been following joe tonight on social media, and i wanted a quote from this. "okay, let me get this straight. democrats hate obamacare and hated his immigration policies? what planet are they from?" >> yeah. it's rare that the senator and i agree on anything really. we don't agree thatch on policywise. but it was weird for me to watch about almost 40 minutes of primarily attacks on the obama administration's policies. it was odd. it took -- i mean, de blasio made a full-on attack of obamacare. essentially said we have no working health care system in america. but hello, we have obamacare. so that means the system he's attacking and saying it isn't working is obamacare. it took until cory booker finally said -- mentioned donald trump, you finally had a couple of candidates realize they need to also mention that it is donald trump that's trying to take away the health care of 30 million people who got it from obamaca obamacare. so it was an odd strategy to me.