is he finished, his joe scarborough finish? id not look so good during this episode. >> it was in march of this year where he said receive the best of joe biden and told his audience ask you if you do not believe that he was trying to be definitive as possible to protect his guy and after the debate said would you trust joe biden to run a fortune 500 company obviously implicated that he should be president anymore and once the blowback came because he said this on msnbc, that's a big no-no now is try to come back to an area where he can get the next contract but that's all this is about he has 0 credibility. david: meanwhile, the real heavy like david axelrod are predicting biden is going to lose the 2024 race in a landslide, roll that tape and get joe's reaction. >> that is really the concern, it is not about his record every time he's asked whether he could do the job until he's closer to 90 than 80, he says look at what i did the last four years, that's not the way it works. there is immutable facts of life and those were pai

the media joe scarborough the far-left lied to the american people and were exposed on debate night. joe biden cannot take the 3:00 am phone call. he cannot take that 4:00 am phone call. he's not mentally fit to handle the office and the rigours of the white house. it's not a question of him resigning. it's a question will he protect america up until the end of his term? let's be very clear he's going to speak today with teleprompter. he's gone to go talk to george stephanopoulos who's come to hand him softball questions lollipop questions. joe biden is to come on fox news and take tough questions, no cue card but he won't do that. joe biden is not fit or able to remain in the office. 1 last point. that's because she's not there. because she does want to be next to joe biden. >> why isn't senator baldwin going to be there, and your thoughts on what he needs to say, something to convince people that he should remain on this ticket. >> at the gets not necessarily what he says but how he says it and joe biden has been good on the fact of delivering on promises but now it's more about the

the hosts slammed their nbc bosses for pulling their show from the air yesterday, with joe scarborough threatening to quit if it happens again. nbc brass looks like they don't trust them to cover the trump assassination attempt. we're taking it on in the "evening edit", all of it we'll be right back. stay right there. do you want to close out? should i? normally i'd hold. but... taking the gains is smart here, right? feel more confident with stock ratings from j.p. morgan analysts in the chase app. when you've got a decision to make... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management. [floor creaks] (♪) (♪) (♪) relax, you booked a vrbo. did i read this? did i get eggs? where are my keys? memory and thinking issues keep piling up? it may be due to a buildup of amyloid plaques in the brain. visit morethannormalaging.com progressive makes it easy to save with a quick commercial auto quote online. so you can get back to your monster to-do list. -really? -get a quote at progresivecommercial.com. the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. -really? -get a quote "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles

joe scarborough, i appreciate it so much. re we look forward to hearing you and the whole team bright and early tomorrow morning. joe, thank you so much. t >>> as we have been talking, we have gotten a lot of news from the democratic political sphere and from democratic lawmakers and governors. joining me now , we have gotten a statement from the majority leader in the senate, schumer saying joe biden has not only been a great president and a great legislative leader, but he is truly an amazing human being. his decision, of course, was not easy, but he once again put his country, his party and our future first. joe, today shows you are good great patriot and a great american from majority leader chuck schumer. i know there has been pride on capitol hill because lawmakers are in their home districts so it has not been quiet in conversations among lawmakers who are normally on capitol hill. what can you tell us about the moments leading up to this decision and what you have learned so far. >> deftly not, katy. because lawmakers

joe scarborough msnbc it is our responsibility to call at those times when constitutional norms are beingged. those times when the president of the united states actually channels of joseph stalin calls that media the enemy of the people joe scarborough msnbc. donald trump talks like a racist, things like a racist, make statements like it racist, conjures emotions that gives support to white supremacist and white nationalists. really? michael eric dyson msnbc. our president is a disturbed person he is behaving in ways that are simply inexplicable "new york times" columnist thomas freedman. the world witnessed a betrayal the likes of which we have never seen. america's presidents cited with its enemy today at the time cnn chris cuomo the spirit of what trump did is clearly treasonous it's a betrayal of the united states he through our u.s. intelligence services. flush them away. it came off as being a puppet of putin. people are going to say there is the taint of treason around this white house cnn contributor at lease at the time historian douglas brinkley. if anybody's issuing demented w

. >> management obviously was petrified that either joe scarborough or any of the people they have on their own a regular basis going to say something that would obviously embarrass them at a sensitive time when the -- win the former president was nearly assassinated. joe scarborough said not too long ago that if donald trump is elected, that he will execute generals, execute political opponents. set it with a straight face. he should have been pulled off the air quite some time ago. i get disagreement over policy and scarborough i guess is -- is a democrat now or is saying what he... but to go that personal and make predictions like that is a whole bowl of wrong. they have a real problem because they continue to criticize the president this way on such personal terms, hyperbolic terms , terms that aren't based in any reality based on the president's first term. >> he is a world-class genius at marketing. the fact that the two things he had to think about in the moment was my breathing and where is the hero shot is really reflective of who he is. he has a brilliant marketer. that phot

can you imagine a couple of weeks ago, i think it was joe scarborough who came out and told his viewerskay, joe scarborough. why is the media hiding this from the american people? will: best version of biden ever, maria. that's what he said on msnbc. [laughter] maria: yeah. will: we'll be watching your show here in just a few moments on the fox news channel. maria: see you in 10 minutes. will: the other high stakes debate last week going down on this show. how do you make a pork chop, you know, what, pineapple? rachel: mine's in the oven. pete: you don't. there's no flavor in a pork chop. will: so one of new york's top chefs disagrees with me and pete, and he's going to show us how it's done next. ♪ my brown-eyed girl. ♪ you're my brown-eyed girl ♪ we believe that the best products are made in america and come fresh from the family farm. and produced under the most sustainable farming techniques. from our sheets to our blankets and quilts this is a product that can be passed on. it could be a family heirloom. go to red land cotton dot com and receive 20% off your order with code fox 20.

david ignatius, use or evenjoe scarborough of or even joe scarborough of morning joe or evenjoe scarboroughe, you know, came out saying — asking questions about where do we go from here? how does this go on? his co—host and wife was not on the same page. so, we'll see. i mean, i think that — but i do think that this is going to be hard to have — you know, when the hur report came out, there was conversation from the vice president that this was politically motivated. when the viral clips came out of the president on d—day and otherwise, we were told, "0h, these are," you know, "these are modified clips." they were cropped, they were cropped differently. certainly, there were claims made by the rnc and others that were not true around those clips. but at the end of the day, people know what they saw and 50 million people saw this debate and i don't think this question is going away. jill abramson, former executive editor of the new york times, let's bring you in because you were expressing there a frustration that you don't feel that the american media more broadly has covered this story pro

i don't blame joe scarborough any political figure for what happened. i blame the shooter.des should come down. i think what you are seeing from team trump is a hard pivot from fighter to healer. "politico" playbook said there was a call that took place after the shooting and they've called guests who will speak and said don't bring up the shooting. they have picked which guests will bring it up. you will hear about it from the president. i think you are going to see former president trump on thursday night give one of the most unifying, beautiful speeches and i think it will bring the country together and i know he says maybe it is not possible. i think it is when you have a leader who takes that mantel and runs with it. every indication from nikki haley, ron desantis coming and crafted the truth social about unity. every indication points at a president who will go from fighter to healer. >> dana: isn't it interesting, trey, on the unity front, i'll make a comment. that the republican party seems to be more unified now than the democratic party and yet they have the white

paul and tom friedman, nicholas christoph, jonathan alter, david ignacius and former congressman joe scarborough, the host of msnbc's morning joe, also the chance of diminist biden losing to trump is too high to risk. yeah, so fair question, who cares what these guys think, but there is undeniable answer, biden does, yeah, right, so that, that doesn't mean that biden will take their advice, yeah, to the contrary, it may actually be that the the harder he's pushed, the more determined he'll be. stay in the race and defy skeptics as part of his lifelong competition with elites. yeah, and i think jill biden, his wife, doesn't want him to step down. i think the media has also been talking about this extensively, and i think we're a couple weeks are really interesting in watching how this showdown uh goes ahead and the western media. thank you very much sima for being with us, stay tuned because next sima is going to talk to us about social media expose. now nothing can remain hidden anymore thanks to social media a weak joe biden self-destructed in front of the whole world while an aggressive donald

joe scarborough was a and the rest of them was same item, the so sharpie, so a to do so on the ball. the understands the menu so well as the young man, you know, i'm, we know this because we talked to him in private then you know what it is and is i think so now i think dollars, i mean taking this step come and say, hey, you've been lying to as you've been selling us a bill of goods all this time. so it does now become a little bit difficult. however, the media a so in the tank with the buying. and then once they realize that he's not going anywhere, you know, obama said he's saying that's i, george, you know, i agree. i think we meet with. i think you've already talked about it uh, 4872 hours to get us figure out what they're going to do. one last thing gentlemen, before we go to the break, remember there is the democratic convention, could be a lot of fireworks there to are a gentleman and to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on somebody on this day with our to the so that know of to point out to the student

but i really just wanted to like see joe scarborough of basically say hitler has been shot, but we hope he has a quick recovery because that's the, the did the narrative mode that they're in right now. and i don't feel sorry for them. go ahead past well i, i repeat it, i don't wanna listen. i don't want to get away from what possibly could be going on kind the scenes, right. i mean, i think what your other guest is alluded to is what they want people to think that this is a left versus right battle. isn't that a possibility that trump can be a mature in mandatory and candidly of sorts? i mean, when you sit down and you look at the policies, especially when it comes to foreign policy, they're not that far off. it's trump is not going to pull out of nato. he definitely is. we've been saber rattling with the chinese. and when you bring a guy like ged vance and yeah, he looks good on, on the surface. but when you dig deep, this is a guy who's been funded by peter steele empower and tier. and if trump gets into the, into office right now with everything that's taking place, let's not forget

s this is what joe scar scarborough said and now, of course, back pedaling out of that. in protecting joe biden. >> well, that's exactly what they've been doing, they've been aiding and abetting his lies in sharp contrast to their attitude towards donald the trump. remember, the post counted something -- "the washington post" counted something like 60,000 lies told by donald trump. they closed up that presidential lie checker the minute that joe biden was in the oval office. and, you know, joe biden is, if anything, the biggest liar that the oval office has ever had. and yet the media has chosen to go along with his lies, to cover up for him, to spoon feed him questions, give him questions in advance, agreed to not have very many press conferences really with very little pushback. it's been incredible. and, you know, i was there in the campaign in 2020. in january many iowa, in new hampshire, it was crystal clear to everybody, to every single reporter and to the people on the ground that there was something wrong with joe biden, you know? he couldn't give a simple stump s

. >> trace: joe scarborough thinks that even if barack obama was working behind the scenes to get joeen to step aside and biden knew it it wouldn't matter. but what if obama publicly came out and said it's time to go. would biden listen? and why would he listen. let us know. we will read your responses. there's a bunch of them coming up next. >> trace: we're back with the nightcap crew. tonight's topic obama drama. before george clooney came up with his op-ed calling for joe biden to end his reelection campaign he reportedly consulted barack obama who did not object to it. how much control do you think obama has over biden decision-making if obama publicly called for biden to step aside tomorrow, would biden listen and why or why not. or political expert steve hilton >> he would do the exact opposite. it's well-known the obama team patronized joe biden the whole time when he was vice president. keefe else knobbed and slighted by this. he think he's done a better job in one term than obama did in two. if he did it would strengthen biden's result to carry on. >> he is right. i do think

msnbc's joe scarborough slammed biden's inner circle for keeping him in the race. >> it's really incumbent on people that are around president biden to step up at this point and help the president, help the man they love, and do the right thing. this is not going to end well if it continues to drag out. look at the events of yesterday, the events of the last three weeks. at some point i can tell you what i hear is not at president biden. the anger i hear are at the people that are keeping him in a bubble. or may have their own interests, some financial, in keeping him in the race. stuart: interesting stuff. the top of the hour, in my opinion biden is gone in a week. what say you? >> you may be right. i don't think that solves their problem. mccright have a structural problem bigger than president biden. it's never good when the president of the united states is mentally unfit for the job but if the economy was booming, if inflation was low, if the border was secure in the world at peace it wouldn't be the crisis it is today. it is not the person, it's the policies and the impact so if you

four weeks ago, joe scarborough said that joe biden is at the top of his game, never seen him better, and then a few short weeks later, all of a sudden, joe biden should resign for the good of the country. the only reason the liberal media is now doing this is because they got caught red-handed and they are exposed, and it is that simple. second point, somebody called in about what a great job he's done the last three years. this person must not drive and have to buy gas. this person must not have to buy food or have homeowners insurance, must not have credit card interest rates, must not have car insurance. it is ridiculous. sure, inflation is now only 3%, but when you look at the entirety, it is up since joe biden took office, and that is ridiculous. host: that was matt. this is johnny, arizona, independent. caller: good morning. i wanted to say something, too. i think before we elect the president, we look at what they've done and accomplished, and with their intelligence level is. joe biden has the lowest intelligence level of any president we've ever had. by 30 points, he is lowe

perfect example, on the left, in places— perfect example, on the left, in places like morning joe, joe scarboroughlike that, i watch that on occasion and they refer— watch that on occasion and they refer to — watch that on occasion and they refer to people that go to trump rallies_ refer to people that go to trump rallies as — refer to people that go to trump rallies as extremists and as domestic terrorists. so much as called _ domestic terrorists. so much as called them nazis and referred to trump _ called them nazis and referred to trump as— called them nazis and referred to trump as hitler. that's kind of stuff _ trump as hitler. that's kind of stuff has — trump as hitler. that's kind of stuff has to stop because there are people _ stuff has to stop because there are people out — stuff has to stop because there are people out there that are psychologically not right and unbalanced and they hear these kinds of things— unbalanced and they hear these kinds of things and it can encourage them to do— of things and it can encourage them to do something like what we saw with the _ to do something like

bottom line is that joe scarborough and he was compared to hitler and scarborough said on the air and donald trump if reelected will execute generals and journal is and execute political opponents and gee, i want to fight somebody who speaks like that over and over again on that network. they have conducted themselves in a way that's beyond just giving an opinion and against republicans and against this policy. that's fine. that's cable news these days and the fact that they got personal and compared this man to the fascist and racist and all these things and i'm sorry. you have to be permanently and really responsible and they found way over the line at in point and it's unacceptable given where this country is in terms of the temperature, stuart. stuart: joe concha, rising star, don't be a stranger, come back soon, joe. we need you. >> see you next monday. stuart: check the markets please. dow up close to 200 and nasdaq up over 130 points and mike lee joining us for market coverage. you're in sarasota, florida,. the moment. what reaction is that? >> on saturday night, people i hadn'

. >> stephen: do you believe his letter to capitol hill and his joe scarborough call this morning sayings like last week was like, we are going down. it was really fast. then this week it feels like we are taking up a little bit. we could very well go down again. >> stephen: that's why you tick up. if roller coasters just ticked up and let you off. >> abby: we are not at the end of the roller coaster. we are not where you slide into home base. >> stephen: are you going to be in chicago? >> abby: yes. >> stephen: me too. >> abby: that will be exciting. >> stephen: interesting convention. >> abby: so much more exciting than i thought chicago was going to be. >> stephen: democrats, one of the big complaints as they have trouble getting attention in the face about crazy trumpets but if joe dropped out and said it's all in for kamala or something like that, trump could not buy headline for the next couple weeks because everybody would be speculating about that. [applause] i'm not saying it's the right thing to do. i'm not saying it's the right thing to do. i'm saying would be very interesting

he is really close with joe scarborough. here is what biden likely watched as he was having his morning coffee. >> it is incumbent on people that are around joe biden to step up at this point and help the president. and help the man they love. and do the right thing. this is not going to end well if it continues to drag out. the anger i hear are the people keeping him in a bubble. >> or of their own interest. >> or who may have their own interests, some financial, in keeping him in the race. that is the real anger and let me tell you, that is not just anger from inside congress. that is anger from inside the political, his own political camp. it is widespread. it is widespread. joe biden deserves better. he deserves better than he's getting from those closest to him. >> kayleigh: wow, that is the president's close friend. guy, we're getting breadcrumbs of reporting here and there. i asked our team to scroll what we have learned to show illustrate this is coordinated campaign. axios describes it as relentless and coordinated.

so joe scarborough, tried sell viewers on biden staying in the race this morning.react to it after. >> please, please, republicans, please right wing media outlets, spare us your moral indignation over a man who had a really, really terrible debate but a man who has been the most effective president over the past three and a half years, the most effective president in passing bipartisan legislation this century. the most effective president in strengthening the dollar over the past 50 years. >> jason: sean, you got to answer this because i'm just still laughing at that? >> sean: so joe biden has an approval rating of 35%. 75% of americans think the country is going in the wrong direction. i think joe biden can pull it off if the policies were good, inflation wasn't sky high. the border was secure. foreign policy was working. but when all this policies have failed and he can't do the job. cognitively, that's when americans go huh? by the way, jason, we want to keep joe biden in the race. we don't want joe biden to go anywhere. we want to now play the democrat role,

but meanwhile, biden's baghdad bob in this nbc's joe scarborough, after momentarily freaking out, letting truth slip about a week ago about joe biden, he's got it together. he got his new marching orders and he's warning everybody to give biden some time before making the big switch. >> i said eight days ago that the president need today consider getting out. i said that we needed to give it time, needed to see what was going to happen, and i think we're still there. it's only july the 5th. such an historic decision should not be made in haste. the democrats, you better get this right. you better think through it. you better take your time. you better take a deep breath and you better get this right. >> will: it's only july the 5th. take your time. time. that's the one thing biden doesn't have. i mean every day he gets older. and the faction that wants biden out is getting louder and bigger. this week, house democrat seth molten said his party needs to consider another candidate, making him the third democrat in congress since the debate to signal biden's gotta go. even more notably, the

here, greg, my favourite part of this story was that nsnbc thought they can pull a fast one on joe scarborough. why would anyone think that, after joe biden just made him think that he was see nile. >> or not senile. man, that's why nobody laughed [ laughter ] >> normally we would fix that in post. we're live, joe, that joke just went whoa. you know what, that was a joke version of an iranian helicopter. >> i'll see you after the show, greg [ laughter ] >> i think what you're saying, though, is a long drawn out obsession with trump, showing you how it can worm its way into everything you do, if you're a never trumper, it can destroy your marriage, it can destroy your job. all of this is about that. their bosses told them that they couldn't trust them to do the show, because they're too close to the show. >> and the thing is, brian, i think you're right, especially here, if you or i went on and were like, look in the camera, you're gone, you're out on your rear end. >> everyone is replaceable. >> that's not true, a lot of lefty outlets, for the last couple year, it's the thing to do for journal

when he was on the joe scarborough the other morning he couldn't put sentences together to try to defendhe fact that he was all there. that's the problem. the american people are seeing this, it's a shame. this is the most powerful man in the world. the leader of the free world. this is not the way it should be and not who we should have on the stage. we need strength and we need it right now and i think people are going to see that. >> nikki haley is pledging her delegates to vote for donald trump she's not invited to the convention. don't know who determines that but she's not invited. what you think? >> i'm not sure governor desantis is invited either. i think the leaders should all be there. this is the time to come together. >> [ inaudible question by the media ] >> does that strike you as a little petty? is. >> it's up the two -- up to the people running the convention. they will decide. i'm going to be in texas with my family and hoping to go fishing. go see my constituents. i will be watching just like everybody else and we are going to get doing the work of the people. our bill

somebody get joe scarborough on the phone but do not pull his landline he pulled the cable from the well a news. look, biden won those delegates. that means he is the nominee. like his toy fire truck you cannot take it away from him because it is his. i guess you can take it away from him because they just did. trump got the nomination after being tested. in fact,, there was quite a crowd on their debate stage although half of the crowd was chris christie. the fact is trump got the nomination and nobody could take it from him. not so on the left. just ask bernie who the democrats hip checked out of a presidential primary victory twice. for a man his age of broken hip could be fatal. it was polling that got biden out, a bunch of nameless number crunchers just anointed a new candidate. not because biden's iq dropped lower than his body temperature. if that was a standard how can this woman be the replacement? [laughter] >> what do you want to know. >> greg: yes. that is the laugh of a woman who loves school buses, the shorter the better. they got biden out because it looked like he was goi

people like joe scarborough at one point saying this is the best we've ever seen from joe biden.ple -- i will say, the only caveat about a kamala, just as a easily as the media a was with willing to lie to us and tell us everything is fine, you're a liar if you say otherwise, there's actual videos of joe biden being joe biden as cheap fakes, they would present kamala harris as the second coming. can you imagine the magazine covers, the puff piece, the interviews in trying to make her seem likable? i think at a some point the media's going to turn this ship around if it ends up being biden and getting behind that democrat nominee because they don't want donald trump to win. will: that takes me back to what i says earlier. if they are really serious about the fact that they have been duped, the donors, the media about the -- by the biden administration, they have to hold kamala accountable as well. she's part of the cover-up that duped america. you can't just move on to kamala without going, why did you lie to us -- joey: i don't understand that. who was duped? you east weren't --

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that you have had a disastrous debate performance, widely panned by cnn, msnbc, by your allies, joe scarborough and call governors? i mean, why not? is the question. is he number one too stubborn? numbered two, unable to call him? that's what comes to mind it makes no sense. the only thing i can postulate as maybe there's more going on behind the scenes that we know. maybe he is considering stepping aside. maybe that explain why he would not call the governors. >> emily: another interesting thing to note as well, as we mentioned it was governed like bank conducted by the governor of minnesota, but he also appeared on this network to defend him post debate. so say you? >> lisa: i finally agree with the sentiment orange man bad. i've had bad spray tans too, it happens. but anyways, i am loving watching this implosion from the left, because the media, the left they were all content with lying to us about the condition until he wobbled on the stage and america so what is actually happening, the mental vacancy that is joe biden. i will say that i think republicans need to expand the line of attack,

here is joe scarborough's explanation.before we start this hour, i just wanted to briefly talk to our friends and viewers that watch us every day. and talk about what happened yesterday. we were told in no uncertain terms on sunday evening that there was going to be one news feed across all nbc news channels yesterday. that we were going to stay as a network in breaking news mode throughout all day yesterday. that did not happen. i guess after there was such a strong blowback about yesterday morning, i guess they changed their plans. we were very surprised. we were very disappointed and if we had known that there wasn't going to be the one news feed from nbc news across all channels we obviously would have been in yesterday morning. >> harris: his wife is looking at him like okay, really? let me just get through this. fox news contributor tore joe concha writing in a new op-ed even msnbc can't trust morning joe after trump assassination attempt. what they appear to be saying is we don't trust our most prominent full-time h

of course we see across the media people who have been allies, like joe scarborough, al bernstein now saying that he should maybe step out. as you mentioned, link the reports, white house staffers are freaking out, worried that biden may not be where he should be. pent up demand for what people have been thinking. >> jesse: and when you talk about that dam, let me just jump in, when you talk about that down you are talking about the people who are the democratic representatives who are saying maybe this is not the way to go. jared golden of maine said it also did not rattle me as it has others because the outcome of this election has been clear to me for months. while i don't plan to vote for him, donald trump is going to win and i'm okay with that. i mean he's okay with that, jason, your thoughts? >> you've got a democrat in congress saying he's okay with that, look, the new york post in just the last few minutes posted the story thinking there may be as many as 25 democrats about to come out with a letter calling on the president to step down. it's a sad day, a scary moment, because

. >> dana: joe scarborough not happy about that.> we'll talk about it on the air. we talk about everything on the air. we were very surprised, we were very disappointed and if we had known that there wasn't going to be the one news feed from nbc news across all nbc news channels we would have been in yesterday morning. >> network tone down coverage. staffers were peeved at the decision after pulling morning joe. >> what a display of a lack of trust for your flagship program. if something had happened to joe biden and they said steve doocy and brian kilmeade take the morning off. that tells you how they feel about these anchors. i think it tells you they have a sense that they know certain people have gnarly, nasty cases of trump derangement syndrome and doesn't allow them to be wise and fair in moments it calls for that. our anchors do so well. the other networks have lost their minds so much that executives may start to notice it. that just doesn't happen. to go on the air and criticize and you said this before this segment it is c