santa clara supervisor, joe simidian, and ben farrow, nicole, i want to start with you, what tyhow muchpublic inp there? >> you know, we see cities up and down the state of california spending vast amounts of money on technology everything from license plate readers to facial recognition to drones as you mentioned in san jose. more than $65 million. and with little to no public debate, very little consideration of the costs and benefits. and very few policies in place to make sure that misuse does not happen. and we're seeing this happen over and over, largely because a lot of local law enforcement is taking advantage of federal funds that are coming down. and they're often sidestepping the normal oversight procedures that city council and board of supervisors has used for generations to make sure there is really thoughtful consideration of community issues and that the public knows about these issues and can speak up and voice their concerns early in the process. >> so we've heard a lot about the civil liberties concerns. should we be using the surveillance articles at all, are the pub