joe strummer and the clash spoke the truth. this guitar represents that.and that when they received their first hit, the money they received from the record company a radio promotion was a car, and they gave the car to local labor unions so they could get to their jobs. joe strummer lived it, the band lived it. it is a big part of the story. john: the pretenders, another of my favorite bands. this guitar is representative of what? didn't wanty hine to be a great rock 'n roll singer. she wanted to take gender out of it. she did it as hard as anyone ever did. she is not being a diva. she is being a leader and really calling out for women's rights. john: this is really a symbol of a rock feminism and how it was on the forefront of women's rights. greg: absolutely. think patti smith, carole king -- they are leading and others are following. john: trace a little bit the way in which rock 'n roll music is rebel music and the boys often -- the voice often of the counterculture. just trace over the time from the beginning of rock 'n roll to now the many concerns p

joe strummer lived it the whole time.d they're a big part of the story. >> we have another guitar back here. this is representative of what? >> she wanted to be a great rock and roll singer. she wanted to take gender out of it. she did it has hard as anybody, still does. she's not being a diva. she's being a leader and really calling out for women's rights. they're leading and others are following. >> talk about like over the history. this shows, just trace a little bit the way in which rock and roll, basically rebel music. just trace over the time from the beginning of rock and roll to now the main concerns politically speaking of rock and roll. >> sure. the 1950s, early '60s, it's civil rights. it's shaken their world. huge, huge movement. when the march on washington happened, before him on the day was bob dylan, joan biaz. that's front and center with it. you talk about ecology or anti-war movement. rock and roll was a voice. musicians and artists are speaking for a will the of other people. they're pushing the envelo