earlier we spoke with joe ultman, who's the host of the conservative daily podcast. and he thinks that the u. s. is rapidly losing the confidence of africans while look at the libyan cute coo and also look at what they did in sudan, look at what they did in, in other african nations, in the amount of interference and things that have done in those regions. it's like a bunch of school kids at a, at a high school. it's always like they're bad, they're bad, they're bad, but they never look at themselves. let's go back in time and look at what the u. s . has made promises over and over and over again in that region. they've done this for decades and they've never deliver. so they've said we're going to give you a, we're going to help you with with development. and those developments in large part i spent a lot of time in africa and the middle east. those developments where china would come in and say, hey, we're going to do something. they always did it. but the us never did. i don't think that they, they learn from their mistakes and they definitely don't learn from his

we'll likely be right back here talking about this as those releases continue or to also spoke with joe ultman who hosts the conservative daily podcast and author, michael rectinwald's. both suggest the biden laptop story demonstrates deep ties between social networks in the u. s. and the political establishment. think that it's not just happening on twitter, happens on facebook and instagram, and all of the social platforms. when i find more disturbing, is that they just seem to go to the same gas lighting the american people walk past didn't say nothing to see here. and then they repeatedly lie. they have not told the truth to the people about anything in the 100 biden story. the laptops, 3 by itself is one piece of evidence, but if you look at tony bub lensky and the other people that came forward, that said that joe biden was actively involved in these, these negotiations overseas. and to see some of the things the laws that were broken that were put any american in handcuffs within minutes to see him living in a $30000000.00 mansion have secret service all around him. i think it just flie