joe walsh is back with me but just because a friend of the show, the reverend dr. getting her signal so we will have her, we will have her back on the show, but joe, can you please explain what is this hold that donald trump has on people who, i thought, were god- fearing moral backbone people? >> jonathan, it is sadly just very misguided. look, i come from the base. i come from the evangelical republican party base and the party has become a cult and they have taken now to looking at donald trump as their cult leader and many of them, jonathan, as their savior. but here is what's interesting, jonathan. many of them are waking up to it. trump has had a hold over them and mainly, it's because he has declared, you know, to unleash hell on their opponents. many of them have woken up to who he is and i hear from them every day. you saw -- go ahead. >> so on that point, you are hearing from them every day. how are they waking up. what is a particular thing he said or an action that flips the switch for them? >> they tell me he's like unleashed. he's even meaner or cruel

host of white flag with joe walsh. great to have both of you with us. you were at the dnc. certainly energetic. we felt it even on the tv screens for those of us watching it at home. give me your take away of what you felt and what you saw as we now turn to the general election. >> i saw population that was hopeful. one that was excited. one that can ensure we take this over the finish line, but also one that was listening to a call of action. i think what was more vital here was that you had evangelicals. you had people who are in very red districts in the south. you had people of various age groups. young people, middle-age people, people who are lifelong republicans. you also had people thinking about sitting out this election cycle who are now reinvigorated. there was an excitement almost like an awakening of sorts. not only to the purposeful use of american democracy, but also an idea of how we move america forward. we know the rnc presented a darkness. in america that didn't resemble what many of us live in and h

what the newspaper described as the worst three weeks of donald trump of the cabin joining me is joe walsh, former deputy communications director and associate counsel to vice president, kamala harris. we have a lot to get to today. we didn't even need an intro this morning, because truly, let's start with the hack. i just want to pull this up. so, microsoft confirmed, and this is nbc news's van hilliard and alexander marquez, the trump campaign spokesperson, stephen chung pointed to an iranian group, this one connected to the iranian revolutionary guard corps, or on a presidential campaign. we need to be clear that microsoft did not identify the company that was targeted and a spokesperson for microsoft and abc news reached out declined to share details about the incident beyond what was written in their report, friday, and nbc news has not been able to verify that iran was behind the hack for the trump campaign. so, all of that on the table. joe? >> claimed. i don't want to be the guy at the table, but i will be the person at the table. the trump administration claimed they were hacked.

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. >> olivia troye and joy -- joe walsh are with us.you can pick and choose which one of those. talk to me about the republicans, iran, for harris. you are one of the voices involved in this effort at you moderated that evening, 70,000 folks showed up. >> wow. >> it says a lot about the movement within the republican party. these are, again, the wide spectrum of republicans who participated in this call, give us a sense of what is happening here and how effective this outreach, i know i hate that term but it does apply here, by the harris campaign, to actually engage republicans? they will need them. they will need them in the swing states, not enough democrats to get you across that line. so talk to us a little bit about that. >> yeah, i think this call, as evidenced, show the coalition is growing. i was incredibly honored and glad to be able to moderate the call. we had several moderators, lieutenant governor jeff duncan talked about traditional values and this is not the party he recognizes anymore, as you and i both know. we talked

joining me now is former congressman joe walsh, the republican from illinois and director of the socialf republicans for harrison the former chief communications advisor to former house speaker paul ryan and john weiner and the msnbc political analysts. okay. one of the things that is fascinating to me is, let's just start. what you both make of this, and i will start with you, joe. what you make of democrats going in with this strategy of belittling trump or diminishing him? making joke at his expense? >> yes, but more. look. we can't normalize trump. i think it is a good thing that democrats are focusing on him because he is uniquely horrible and he is a threat to our democracy. i have no problem with them making fun of him and taking weird shots at him. i wish that would be combined with more genuine and real, he is a threat to democracy. he lost last time and refuse to concede. i want to see serious real indignation at what he is done and to be fair, you are there in chicago. you did hear that come from michelle obama, barack obama and everybody who took the stage and they had some

joe walsh, jeff duncan, also take part. this discussion is hosted by republicans for harris. >> i am honored to host and moderate this meeting. in this moment when political polarization is at an all-time high and party affiliation is tied to personal identity perhaps more than ever, this inspiring group of individuals joining us work as a truly independent breed of americans. one willing to take a courageous stance for the country that we all cherish. they each have their own story for why they are putting country over party and why they are supporting vice president harris in this november election. tonight you will hear more about the personal journeys that got us all here. >> like you, our commitments to the constitution, the integrity of american democracy, the rule of law, rational governance, and basic human decency and civility are most important at this critical moment. regardless of political background or voting history. [inaudible] together we stand with them for a vision of america where leadership is guided by

made history as 10,000 peop attended a rally held by harris finity group, featuring speakers like joe walsh adam kinzinger and mark hamill, best knownor his role in "star wars." it's one of a dozen affinity ou the harris campaign has turned into organizing vehicles in recent weeks. next, some of the highlights of the meeting. >> do you want this republican party to change? do you want it to be ronald reagan's party again? do you want it to be a party that stands for freedom and limited government and opportunity again? and generally they always say yes. and then the answer is the fastest, quickest, easiest way to get that republican party back is for donald trump to get his ass spanked this november. trump has to lose. trump has to lose by a lot. the republican party, my friends on this call -- i'm closing, olivia, i promise. the republican party will remain trump's party unless trump loses decisively. >> let's be clear, probably the vast majority of people that are considering being republicans for harris voted for donald trump once or twice and now trying to wrestle with, ok, i voted for

also made headlines as thousands aended a virtual rally featuring eakers like former congressman joe walshdam kinzinger and dr. our camel is known fohi role as luke skywalker in star wars. the virtual rally is one of dozens of affinity groups that campaign has assembled and turned into fundraising vehicles in recent weeks. next, some of the highlights from the meeting. >> do you want this republican party to change? do you want it to be ronald reagan's party again? you wanted to be a party that stands for freedom and limited government and opportunity again? and generally they say yes. and then the answer is the fastest way to get that republican party back is for donald trump to get his ass spanked this november. trump has to lose. he has to lose by a lot. the republican party, my friends on this coal, i'm closing, olivia, i promise, the republican party will remain donald trump's party unless trump loses decisively. >> let's be clear, but for the vast majority of people considering to be republicans for harris and voted for donald trump once or twice and is now wrestling with -- i voted

and republican strategist shermichael singleton, and former republican congressman from illinois, joe walsh. i want to begin shermichael with the issue of ivf and the idea of a federal mandate, which again, i've asked several republicans about this in the last 12 hours as someone who covered the obama obamacare legislative process and the multiple repeal efforts. the idea of republicans getting behind a mandate of any kind on health care, let alone on an issue that sometimes splits pro-life groups i don't understand what this means well, look, phil, i mean, if if you are going to be pro-life, which i am, that means you're pro-life from the cradle to the grave. certainly i can understand why a liberal may begged the question about, well, this is a government mandate. conservatives don't traditionally support that i agree, but some conservatives are our supposed to support the idea of families and family growth in nurturing families. and it doesn't make any sense for struggling americans, middle-class americans, and not be able to afford to start a family. and so i would argue that liberals a

one of those republicans is joe walsh, a former congressman from illinois and he joins me now. looking at this list, it's a very impressive list. a lot of people have been pretty public opponents of trump, so tell me a little more about what the group is going to be doing and what specifically they will do to try and defeat him? >> jen, great to be with you, look, what we want to do is give republicans around this country especially in the battleground states, the courage to come out and say we are better than donald trump. we know there are a lot of republicans in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania, who don't want to support trump. they are afraid, because as you know, there's a lot of pressure, there's a lot of pressure locally and when you publicly oppose trump as a republican, you pretty much and your career as a republican, that is a scary thing. you talk about how the party has become a cult, he has already purged people who are not obedient to him. what we are going to do this campaign as we are going to get out there and tell republicans all throughout this country

michael ludig, barbara comstock, and adam kinzinger who i got a chance to meet at the dnc and joe walshana navarro from "the view." george w. bush's former u.s. treasurer, rosario marin and you can go on and on and on and then i asked myself why isn't every republican is on this list who calls himself a republican because donald trump is something else. are you surprised by those who are not on this list and -- go ahead. >> it's a mixed bag, right, joy? on the one hand donald trump can't break this list, there are no former obama staffers for trump out there. on the one hand that's a good thing and that new list that came out today with the 200 that they released, one name stood out to me, gene becomer who was george h.w. bush's staffer, and she wouldn't have put her name on that after what her formers about saw about donald trump, so that's good. there are bigger fish to fry, and i wrote about this in the bull work today and there was not a single cabinet official that went to the dnc. about half of them have not endorsed them and that's good, but at least some percentage of them would

congressman joe walsh. >> olivia, thank you. rosario, thank you. god bless you. that was beautiful. thank you and thank you for your courage. i am not going to get into trump. everybody that is going to speak tonight and everyone listening, we all know trump is unfit to be president. we do not even need to make that case. that is just a waste of time at this point. i want to congratulate first everybody on this call, all of my fellow speakers who have publicly made the decision to vote for kamala harris. denver, adam, olivia, rosario, greg, everyone on the call and so many more. that ain't easy. we all know as republicans the minute we do that, the minute you make that step, you could be ending your career as a republican. that is a big deal. and everybody who has had the courage to do that, they deserve your praise. everybody listening to us right now, look this is one of the this is one of the rare moments , in our country's history where you have got to put your country first and do what you know is right. again, everybody on the call right now knows that donald trump is unfit to

laura: i have with me former congressman from illinois, joe walsh, a lifelong congressman.t does kamala harris need to say to reach lifelong republicans like yourself who may be disenchanted with the party? >> she needs to say donald trump is an existential threat to our democracy, and tell us who she is, what she believes in. so many people do not know her, i am all in with republicans for harris. we want a better sense of her vision for the future. laura: we are expected to hear from geoff duncan, do you think voters who are centrists and republicans will be impacted by hearing voices like that? >> absolutely. i talked to trump supporters and republicans every day, they do not like trump but they are worried about harris. when they can see people like me, duncan, kinsinger -- kinzinger, it gives them the courage to come out and support kamala. laura: what does she need to define herself on more? >> trump is trying to paint her as a crazy leftist, she is not. we don't want a 10 point plan, we just want her vision for america. we already have a sense of it, she is inclusive

former dnc vice chair, michael blake is here with us and former republican congressman from illinois, joe walshentlemen, what a night. i'm starting with you because it wasn't doug emhoff. it wasn't a politician. it wasn't a celebrity that took the night away. it was one person who is not running for office and who happens to have the initials ammo first lady obama shut the place down last night you can tell she has been waiting for years to give that speech she was tired of trump disrespecting her and her family and reminding folks that her husband had the black job of presidency. and one of her closest friends is about to have that black job and kamala harris and she did it with swag. i mean, we just can't ignore that as a former obama aide last night was one of those moments that you just will never forget because we were height to see our bosses take the stage but let's be very clear in that household, first lady obama took everything over last night and as a former conservative republican congressman, she gave a speech that i could have given 12 years ago. >> it was amazing. she appealed to

. >> el presidente joe biden, que supo que el escogido era walsh y los felicitÓ a ambos en una llamadalica, asegurÓ que walsh es una voz poderosa a favore los trabajadores y la clase media. defensor de libertades personales y de nuestra democracia del lado republicano, este es el duo mÁs radical de izquierda en la historia, dijo donald trump. y refiriÉndose a harris por otro nombre, la llaÓo loca en su medio social, a la vez que su compaÑero de fÓrmula en un mitin en filadelfia asegurÓ que su ahora rival. esÁa mÁs preocupado por darle una buena vida a los indocumentados que a los ciudadanos estadounidenses, segÚn una encuesta, 71% de los estadounidenses no saben quiÉn es, pero dentro de su estado, el 54% de los votantes registrados aprueban su gestiÓn. y una de las maneras en que conectÓ con esta audiencia fue burlÁndose de su rival republicano y dijo que estÁ loco por debatir con Él. si se toma la molestia de pararse del sofÁ. vanessa muchÍsimas gracias cristina por tu reporte. >> bueno, y el ahora candidato a vicepresidente demÓcrata calificÓ de raro a su rival republicano, como ya l

joe biden will exit stage left and this becomes the harris walsh show now. >> all right. another familiar face taking the stage tonight, former president barack obama. how important is his speech? >> very important because, you know, he he wasn't on board with everything that was going on early on. i think he was concerned very much with joe biden being the candidate for the for the democratic party. i think he wanted to have a good feeling about the harris campaign. but, you know, tonight it will be a full throated endorsement. it takes a little longer for some people to come to the position where they feel very, very comfortable with who the candidates are and in this case, the nominees. and i think that's where barack obama is tonight. i expect him to give a great speech as he always does, and joined, of course, by michelle obama as well. >> do you think president biden finally put to rest the rumors, the talk that he was forced out? >> no, not really. i think that's just a it's a piece of american history at this point. i think a lot of people in the party knew that t

time after that being possible in may, walsh retired, then in july of 2005 is former battalion received confirmation. it was headed to iraq. i did speak with veteran joe eustis who served for over ten years with the governor. eustis does not support walls this is politics that is maybe a generous way to put it. but he said this to me, is that from what i know of the situation, they're lying, meaning some of the service members who have come out opposing walls and saying that he dodged service. he said he was as good as soldiers. you'll find i'm not trying to defend him. what i'm trying to do is defend someone who served his country. i'm not voting for him. i'll campaign against him, but i don't think it's fair to characterize his service the way they have. and let me turn now to dan lamothe. he is the national security reporter for the washington post. he wrote an in-depth piece on walz's military service and also on his retirement. and you spoke to a lot of people who had served with him. what did you find? >> that's right we spoke to some of the people that first surface to some of these complaints about governor walz back in 2018? really, even prio

john anderson, the speech by governor walsh, just to me, he personifies how kamala harris has broken from joeiden on a very big issue how to run against donald trump joe biden is all darkness and all threat, all fear against donald trump. kamala harris, the joy, the talk but also just a different message middle class, you heard the snippet was played in the introduction. middle class girl, daughter of immigrants from the bay area in california and a guy from the prairie in nebraska who's now governor of midwestern state. economic populism donald trump has his own brand of populism. this was bill clinton was here tonight. i covered his campaign in 92, and they said he couldn't win an election he survived character crises in the primaries and then won a very strange election with ross perot in the third party running as the candidate of the forgotten middle class scott says they have no policy agenda. he's right. they're going to have to fill it out. they're going to have to say how they're going to pay for it, but they're talking about you know, the guns, the gun issue, not popular with republ

joe biden didn't bring the fight. he certainly did but a lot of people were not just ready to have hope, they were really ready to be inspired and when you look at what tim walshid with the word, weird, it was a particular kind of political warfare. we see what's the best way to call them fascist, to say they are like hitler. what's the best we can demonize and smear these republicans for their authority as an. i got to go to my fascist thesaurus. by just coming out and saying weird, it wasn't a low blow. it was a harmless adjective. rather than finding a euphemism for totalitarians is human tim walz just inflated them. it's casually dismissive. it's not confrontational. he makes the necessary point while also sidestepping negativity. so as a comedian and a guy who writes jokes about this for a living, i was so creatively inspired by the wisdom and gentility of that one little word and it certainly has stuck. >> it's tough to get triggered by weird but when you say weird, everybody knows exactly what it means and it works. david, help us understand what you think donald trump's strategy is now? because he did hold that one news conference this week. it was lon