here is face-off are chris kofinis and joe watkins. joe, i want to start with you. you believe that, yes or no there, is a moral obligation to give people who don't have health insurance health insurance of some kind, and, secondly, do you believe there's a moralable gouti obligation tot health care issues honestly. >> i think it would be great to give every health insurance. but not this plan. this plan is a government-run plan and the moral thing is to let people know it's too much, too fast, too soon, it won't run. >> how is it a government-run plan. i thought you just said it was important to be honest about these issues. how is it government-run? >> it's government-run when the go of the is competing against private industry which can't compete against the government. it's government-run when you don't have the opportunity to make choices yourself. anytime the government is telling doctors what they have to do, it's competing with the insurance companies -- >> except in the time of medicare or social security or veterans affairs where it's government-run. >> un

we've got julie roginsky, joe watkins. you're a philadelphia guy.re you liking this michael vick move. >> am i smiling dennis? is there a great big smile? i'm smiling because i think this is going to be great for the philadelphia eagles. it's a great franchise and michael vick is going to be a great addition to the philadelphia eagles. he's a talented guy. he paid his debt to society. and at the end of the day, let he or she without sin cast the first stone. >> do you own dogs? >> not recently. >> you're a cat person, aren't you? >> i'm a new york giants fan and joe, i expect nothingless of your team than to hire a guy like this. >> my, my, my. i . >> i say look, he paid his debt to society. my dog is going nowhere near philly fans or michael vick. i don't know who's worse. i want an animal rights pay czar that's going to take a quarter of his salary and donate it to an appropriate rescue organization. >> i introduced protection of animals legislation and therefore i think it's an abhorrent thing. but i would rather see a man who repents. >> i belie

julie, keith on the left, and joe watkins and jack burkman on the extreme, extreme right.his is what we like. difference is what makes us great as a nation. julie, quick question here on pax americana and whether it turns into tax americana. if he's going to keep his pledge and not raise taxes on the middle class, where are you going to find the money to pay for all of the things you're doing? >> well, dennis, some of it is going to be cost savings and come out of your pocket and the wealthiest 1% of the population who as far as i'm concerned got the vast benefits over the bush tax cuts over the past eight years and it's time we bring the marginal tax rate. >> not enough people, dennis, to get that done. >> there's not, and also, keith, the top 1% of earners already pays 40% of federal income tax even though they earn only 20% of the income. exactly how much blood are you going to get out of that stone? >> you've got to go where the money is, quite frankly, and the top 1% have been paid off by the george bush tax cuts that helped to ruin our economy and put us into the deb

let's talk to joe watkins. chris, do you think, if you call it evil, if you use incendiary language that it works? >> well, i mean i think -- listen, i think there are certain groups, clearly some republicans that have a strategy here of screaming and shouting so that no message about the necessity and the options in this health care reform that the democrats and president obama are proposing get out. that i think is clear. i don't think it works because i think most americans realize this is a serious problem, a serious crisis that we have to deal with. there may be debate and discussion about how to best solve it. but this notion of somehow paralyzing this discussion this process by just screaming at each other i find increasingly distasteful. >> sarah palin is calling for civil discourse today. she wrote about it on her facebook page. but here's what she wrote over the weekend. the america i know and love is not one in which my farnts or my baby with down's syndrome will have to stand in front of obama's dea

>> let's bring in our panel, karen finney and contessa brewer and david goodwin and joe watkins is also and joe, i'll start with you. i'll ask you the same question. i'm not getting into. listen, i consider rush limbaugh to be a genius businessman who may well be a liability to conversation, but what the heck. you know, you throw the nazis around, you get on tv, they send you money, he doesn't care. how do the republicans do something slightly more productive than certainly what somebody like this, a conservative voice like limbaugh is offering up which is look at me, i'll draw in my cartoon, a swastika over some american imagery? good for money, not good for the country. how do we make it better? >> well, one of the ways that you make it better is by just telling the truth about the legislation. you've got congressmen like the congressman from new hampshire who says that he hasn't read the legislation. the health care legislation. that's the case, unfortunately, for most of the democratic members of congress who are supporting it. but the reality is if you look at something like sectio

squaring off in the power grid, our cnbc contributor keith boykin and political analyst joe watkins. you each get 20 seconds at the start. joe, i start with you. why should he just drop the public option? >> well, why should we make -- why should government be the enemy of private industry, and why should private insurance companies have to compete with the government? they can't. private companies have to make a profit, government doesn't, as we know all too well. and why ruin a system that needs some work but doesn't need to be completely overhauled. >> wow, he did that in ten seconds. keith. 20 seconds on why you think he should keep t. >> the poll also shows that the majority of americans support a public health insurance option. the majority of americans believe that we do need to have some sort of competition in the system, because the prices are too high. and all we're talking about is give people a choice. if you don't like the public insurance line, don't use it. >> you know, joe, right? we need more choice, right, so you could get rid of insurance rules that prevent you from