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. >> joining me is joe watkins pastor of the christ evangelical lutheran church in philadelphia and rabbiresident of the reconstructionist rabbinical college. i spent the afternoon saying we march together on criminal justice and others. tell me as one that is a leader in. the faith what this says to you. we're a little over year after charlottesville. we're here now with the largest mass murder of jewish americans a synagogue in history. how do you as a person of faith, a faith leader, how do you try and move the community forward? >> thank you so much for having me on and for asking that question. i appreciate the two parts of your question, both my own faith and how to lead and how to talk together with communities about this kind of happening. we -- the jewish community has always felt tremendous amount of hope and of confidence about the place that we could find here in america because of the promises embedded in america's founding documents. that all people are created equal and oh we -- we understand this to be a place full of potential, some of which is realized but we also unders

. >>> republican strategist rick tile her, and msnbc analyst and joe watkins, former aide to president h.w. bush. rick, you're first here. >> greg isn't very smart. he could have used his words to answer ben's questions. instead he violently wrings him around his neck, wrestles his to the ground and breaks his glasses. for the president to basically endorse a crime, and then go two ways. maybe people who body slam the. , maybe those are my kind of guys, does he wants to get into that back-and-forth? >> joe, we've been hearing things from the president like here. we have a matsh-up. >> if you see somebody ready to throw a tomato knock the crap out of them. >> he's smiling and laugh. i'd like to punch him in the face. >> very loud, then started swinging at the audience, and the audience swung back. i thought it was very, very appropriate. that's what we need a little more of. >> interestingly, eric trump responded yesterday to this, to his father's comments. he had said my father was just having fun. is this fun? or do you think this has an xwokt on voters? do you think he incites violen

joe watkin, former white house aide to president george h.w. bush. selena maxwell, director for sirius xm and msnbc political analyst. and cornell william brook, former president and ceo of the naacp. welcome to you all. cornell, you first here. your view as a democrat, sir, how do you think kavanaugh's anticipated confirmation will impact the perceptions of the court, will reflect the concerns of justice kagan there? >> mm, it's very troubling. the kavanaugh confirmation has really been a process of dele t delegitimization of american women and the court itself. that is to say where you have a confirmation process, the conclusion of which is predicated on an fbi report where fbi agents decline to -- i should said were kept from talking to the accused. to cooperating witnesses. and to the alleged victim. this -- kavanaugh arrived on the court having been delegitimized by a process set up to help him. the fact of the matter is that the voices of american women were not heard. think about this. he was alleged to have held -- placed his hand over the mo

joining me, pastor of christ evangelical lutheran church and analyst joe watkins who worked in the whitese a long time ago and is conservative. joe, i saw a picture of you with whitney houston at the white house, it is common to bring celebrities to the white house. what are the challenges you have, a picture of you with president bush and michael jackson. it's always a challenge for conservatives in the white house to build better and stronger connections with the african-american community but there are a lot of african-american conservatives, and if the president were trying to elevate his standing amongst blacks in america, if you set up a meeting with somebody prominent like kanye west, how should the conversation have gone? what are the topics that you would like covered that would make sense? >> knowing that kanye west may have come to the meeting sleep deprived, might have been prone to give a ten minute rant, i probably wouldn't invite the press pool. the press pool did its job and this is a big story because anybody that spends one on one faceti face time with the president of

to talk more about this i'm joined by joe watkins, former white house aide for george h.w. publican strategist and author of a book which is a fast and worthy read called "the new pc: practical consideration." joe is an old friend. joe is a pastor, he's a conservative and he and i have talked for many years. one thing i never have heard out of your mouth when talking about the other side or dialogue or discourse, you don't blame others. you're not looking to say if the other side did this, then it would be okay. >> because my side isn't always right, you know. we need to listen to each other and talk to each other. there's so much to be gained from listening to what other have to say. constructive criticism can be a good thing, help us move forward to the country, help us do better. so i believe in thoughtful dialogue and thoughtful discourse, and discourse that is useful and helpful. not in what we have right now, this discourse where people are saying, demonizing each other. that doesn't help us. look at this current batch of campaign commercials and they're the meanest i

being thank you let's not speak to joe watkins he's a republican political strategist joining us from philadelphia via skype thanks very much for speaking to us on the news group so as andy was saying our correspondent that this man was he had frequently expressed his disdain for jews on social media he was reportedly using websites favored by the altar right yet he wasn't known to the intelligence services is this a failure of intelligence no it's not a failure of intelligence i know intelligence is working hard to to find people like that who might be inclined to do actual violence against other americans but it's very very difficult to. figure out which people are going to actually commit actual violence and so i think they're working as hard as they can but. how would you explain though that fed officials have chosen not to file terrorism charges against them instead what they filed are criminal charges and hate crime charges. and i think they're looking for a way to detain him for as long as possible so they could find enough evidence to be able to make additional charges against

great country joe watkins we thank you very much for speaking to us on the news good on al-jazeera thanks so much for having me let's turn to the online conversation about this shooting and as a social media producer looking at that andrew well before he answered the tree of life congregation synagogue in pittsburgh robber bowers unleashed a stream of. medic rhetoric online as we heard a few moments ago and that was on a social network called gap it champions free speech it's kind of like twitter but it's favored by the far right because it provides a home for those who've been kicked off of twitter or other platforms now this is the message that powers posted just before he attacked the synagogue this comment about the hebrew immigrant aid society which is one of the main agencies the u.s. government uses to resettle refugees in the united states and it had organized what it called a refugee shots across hundreds of its affiliated congregations which was focused on helping or at least talking about helping refugees now bowers had posted a lot of it's the jewish conspiracy theories on the