i am joe zhao pleased to say joe zhao is with us.ne who worked with the fed, knows how to think about the implications valuations of companies. ai, some call it a mini bubble, it's. >> not if you're looking. >> where interest rates are the ai super cycle which is starting this year, year one, and the bubble -- a couple of reasons. if you look at historical tech bubbles like crypto, 10 to 12 years of q. week monetary policy and in 2001 when the.com bubble burst, usually these tech bubbles tend to form when you have -- monetary policy, strong markets, strong economy. in 2023, anything but that. with a very difficult market. my point is it ai has been this important, imagine when the fed normalizes and when the markets kind of resume. caroline: you are backing some of the key names we talk a lot about on the show. stability ai, even though there is management concern. on a day where we see all of ai once worth $4 billion valuation in 2021 and now basically cells off and has to fold. what is the distinguishing factor between companies th