again, i feel good because i've known joel katz for 30 years.a very standup guy and he's doing a great job. >> larry: branker is well known. >> yes. >> larry: your father said although he has a close relationship, he wants to visit the kids, he's not going to be involved in raising them because of his age. >> he's probably tired because he's raised us and he had a tough job. no, but he's -- he has an aura about him that is really very respectful. >> larry: has he got a bad rap? >> he gets a bad rap. >> larry: why? he brings a little on himself, right? he sometimes gets carried away. >> yeah, but that's his way of expressing himself. we owe it all to him because if he wasn't the way he was, larry, we wouldn't be the way we were. >> larry: was he a tough father? >> no, he was just the way fathers were during that time. they were very concerned about their kids growing up to be strong. with so many bad influences during that time. >> larry: wow. >> my father's been great. >> larry: he's spoken of the possibility of michael's kids going into show bu

the deals that john maclean and joel katz put together in the columbia picture and the a -- aeg, bravado a lifetime deals that will bring substantial revenues to the estate. >> reporter: it is open in late october and parts in 3-d they are proposal a multiple city tour of jackson memorabilia and still to be determined which companies will gain the rights to michael jackson's merchandise. there were no family members in attendance. catherine jackson did eventually agree to the movie, but the film must be screened by michael jackson's estate and can in-- can't include any footage that makes him look bad and he wants them the children to have their own attorney, independent from their grandmother to deal with the money issues since they are the ones that stand to inherit much of it. >> okay. we are going to kick things off with octo mom. because we know you can't get enough of her. apparently fox will air a two hour primetime special on august 19th. it is titled octo mom, the incredible unseen footage and promise an inside look at the mom taking care of her 14 children and what i find inter