. >> and then you guys found some partners, john roberts and joel rosierman who became more or less the financial backers and handled the business end of out -- oh, there's someone going to woodstock right now on that motorcycle. [laughter] did some sort of working on the business aspects of it while you were concentrating on the booking and also looking for the actual site because originally you did want to have it in woodstock, you'd found one area, winston farm, but it wasn't available for leasing, and so you looked and looked until you found a place called wallkill. now, can you imagine the wallkill generation? [laughter] anyway, why don't you tell us a little bit about how wallkill came about and how you segwayed from wallkill to white lake -- [inaudible] >> originally, woodstock was supposed to be in woodstock. and when we couldn't be in woodstock anymore, i wanted to take the name with me because i thought it really gave everybody the idea of what we were doing in kind of a nice, concise way. but i wanted to be close to woodstock, so we looked in expanding circles from the town a