the timing of this trip and once his impact on american chinese relations let's start there with joel rubin former deputy assistant secretary of state in the obama administration and a democratic strategist he joins us from maryland hi larry it's great to be with you ok joe what's behind this trip of human services secretary alex aids are going to taiwan. the delegation visit to taiwan is significant because it's part of a trend right now that we see from the trump administration of provoking china in many regards and we are watching the slow to move towards a cold war now with china which is very dangerous for our national security and deeply problematic but it's also very political in certainly heading into the 2020 election where president trump is trying to define himself as dance i can't i'm a candidate and joe biden is the pro china candidate and how do you see that playing out. i think that the american people are very wise about understanding that china while the source of the krona virus there in china is not the cause of the catastrophe we have here at home in terms of managing th

joel rubin, thank you so much. president trump has just taken the podium. of and these states and cities have an absolute duty to use all resources necessary to end the violence and all of the injury and death. new york city has an army of great police. i know them very well. new york's finest are as good as it gets. they should be allowed to do their job. if they are allowed to do their job, the new york city problem will be solved and be solved quickly. they do it well. the mayor bill de blasio should immediately hire back all of the police who were fired without justification. they were fired. i guess that is part of the fund the police by the democrats. they should hire new york city's finest back. they have some incredible policeman doing specific jobs that nobody else can do when it comes to terrorism and other things. together, the city of chicago and the state of illinois have 25,000 police officers, sheriffs, and guardsmen available to quell any violence. they can do it quickly and easily if allowed to do their jobs. incredible,ent is but they have

the timing of this trip and what's his impact on america chinese relations let's start there with joel rubin former deputy assistant secretary of state in.

the timing of this trip and once its impact on american chinese relations let's start there with joel rubin former deputy assistant secretary of state in the obama administration and a democratic strategist he joins us from.

of the white house we'll be talking to him again a little bit later on right now that we've got joel rubin with us former u.s. deputy assistant secretary of state he's on skype from chevy chase and in maryland i mean alan makes the point there that this is just it's it's it's it's we and it's not a convention in any sort of traditional sense but do you think as alan said some of these viral moments might break through over the next 24 hours and then you know every day afterwards yeah it's certainly not a traditional convention but we're not living in a normal time right now and i think present occurrence is something that we believe it matters science matters the health and safety of the american people matter. so in playing a games like donald trump did with his convention that he wanted in jacksonville so yes i think moments will come through we have to remember that most of america watches these conventions on television anyways so this isn't exactly abnormal it's a different format and it won't be the big balloon drop but americans are used to watching their t.v. and seeing speeches so

well now let's speak to joel rubin former u.s. deputy assistant secretary of state and he joins us live via skype from chevy chase maryland joe thanks for being with us still i do want to start with michelle who chorused top billing tonight that was as alan was saying a very empathetic emotional speech really speaking to this moment and it really was about hope it sounded also like it was aimed at undecideds at really getting out the vote will that work you know list. michelle obama's speech was incredibly powerful and she is very very popular in fact if you've been watching some of the the back and forth on talk shows about who would be vice president many republicans said if she were vice president joe biden would win in terms of his pick so there's a real concern among republicans that michelle obama could be devastating to their chances to win and she speaks to to america across the board so her lines are cutting into donald trump's character or are you mad that he basically has failed to deliver and should not return for a 2n

timing of this trip and what's his impact on american chinese relations let's start there with joel rubin former deputy assistant secretary of state in the obama administration and a democratic strategist he joins us from maryland hi larry it's great to be with you ok joe what's behind this trip of human services secretary alexander's are going to taiwan the delegation visit to taiwan is significant because it's part of a trend right now that we see from the trump administration of provoking china in many regards and we are watching the slow to move towards a cold war now with china which is very dangerous for our national security and deeply problematic but it's also very political in certainly heading into the 2020 election where president trump is trying to define himself as dance i can a candidate and joe biden is the pro china candidate and how do you see that playing out. i think that the american people are very wise about understanding that china while the source of the krona virus their china is not the cause of the catastrophe we have here at home in terms of managing the corona