and i want people just to tone it down before we lose democracy. >> joel stein, the book is "in defenseof elitism." thanks for being here. >> woodruff: tonight's bri but spectacular features chicago- based artistelano dunn. s paintings explore questions of racial identity and perception, often pulling from >> i grew up in los angeles,ia califo to south central l.a., a block of about 24 neighborhoods. when i was a young kid, the neighborhood was fantastic. you know, i woy ld plaoutside on the streets with most of my friends. aisetot older, got ino my teens, things got rough, the riots happened. the gang wars sort of sparked, so it became a neighborhood where you couldn't walk down the strery. it became ough. everything about the neighborhood that i grew up , the friend that i had, the experiences of being a black student in predominantly white high school and elementary school, all of those things come into work. myork is not happy work. it's very difficult work. it's very powful work, i like to think. so i make stuff very colorful. i make it bright. i make it look like a piece of candy

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we sit down with author jules stein -- joel stein whose new book reviews how we look at this positiontart with the title of the book -- "in defense of elitism." why does elitism need a defense right now? >> everyone hates the elite right now. everyone says they can operate from their gut and they know more than the generals. i wantto to r some kind of expertise and some value and appreciation for education. reporter: what does it mean to beli right now? >> i don't mean rich. many are journalists or in nongovernmental organizations or they are in academia. awe're talkiut people with influence and power. these groups of elite.between an italian economist in 1900 came up with this. that there is a battle between people a someone always rules. i think we are in thbattle betwee intellectual elite and the "boat elites." it was a term i came up with after watching dald trump after railing against the elites during his campaign, he then said -- we should be the elites. reporter: i should mention the bookth begins he election of donald trump. that is where the wholehe exploration ofdea of elit