joining me now, cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, joey jackson, and criminal defense attorney, ann bremner. thank you both for being here. and joey, everything i read, every headline is, this is a lock for him, that he is going to get paroled, that he hasn't made one misstep in prison in these nine years. what is is it such a sure bet? >> well, let's talk about that. good morning, poppy. good morning, ann. you know, a lot of people, when they think of o.j., i shouldn't say a lot, everyone, right, they don't think, necessarily, about this particular robbery, they think about that other case we followed so much, right, poppy? the double murder, and he did it, and i'm sure he did it. and everyone has an opinion about it. but this is about not that case, this is about what he did in reno, right? and so, the issues will turn on that particular case. and there are many who believe that everyone but the judge says, you know, 9 to 33 years for trying to steal your own memorabilia is ridiculous and has a lot to do with payback. and so you assess whether or not the punishment fit the cr