. >> i want to bring in cnn legal analyst joey jackson. joey, why would prosecutors just suddenly drop charges? >> that's the open question. good afternoon to you. that's one we're going to hear shortly, but you have to wonder if it was really an overstep by the police department. look, you had the superintendent going on "good morning america," blasting him essentially, talking about him essentially shaming the community by using a noose, et cetera. if you look at the actual statement itself, nia, it speaks to they considered his volunteer service in the community and his agreement forfeit his bond. to me, even though it's not at all being couched as a plea deal, in the event charges are being dismissed -- >> there's jussie smollett walking to the microphone there. we're going to go right to him. his lawyer is there. we're awaiting his statement now. >> good afternoon. today as you have figured out, the state made a motion to drop the charges against jussie smollett and to seal the record in this case. we believe that it was the correct re

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joining me now is joey jackson, a criminal defense attorney and cnn analyst. i'm not sure this is a legal term but the social and societal response to what happened yesterday seems to be wtf? >> absolutely, and that's the appropriate response. he did it and the prosecution decided that this was the appropriate disposition. now, the confusing elements of this is just come out and say that. say that, listen, we believe we went too hard on him, a 16-count indictment was not appropriate given what occurred here and under the circumstances we don't think he should swallow a felony. he's a young pfaff an-american m african-american man and a felony would decimate him. they did not did that. he comes out and says i'm innocent, this would never happen, and that's just not appropriate. is this the proper resolution? perhaps it is. but to suggest and hood wink the american people not to alert your superintendent when they've diverted all tops of resources, no wonder why the mayor in addition to the superintendent were none too pleased. >> let's break that into parts. nu

. >> with me now is "new york times" columnist charles blow and joey jackson. et's start with the legal aspects. this is over kill and they don't have the allegations and he wanted more money from empire and more attention that there is no evidence anyone from the police department spoke to anyone at the production so they have no way to know that. >> i know mark geragos. he's a colleague of mine and an outstanding lawyer and good person. i see things completely different as it relates to the case. backing up and reminding the viewers this is an indictment and that means that there is reasonable cause to believe that a crime was committed or crimes in this case were committed and that jussie smollett committed them. the grand juries don't get to vet the information they are provid provided. 16 grant juriy grand juries sit don't decide guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and they will indict. having said that, i completely disagree with my colleague for a variety of reasons, number one as it relates to your cross examination that doesn't the story have to make sense,

. >> i'm joined by criminal defense attorney joey jackson. joey, good to see you.f kelly had the money, then he most likely wouldn't have needed to go to jail. so is it case closed now that that has been taken care of and now his focus will be on the allegations of the sexual misconduct related charges? >> yes, fredricka, good to be with you. that's where his focus needs to be. this, of course, a side show is of great importance his children be provided for. the judge felt very strongly about that, as a result of that said look, until you pay the entire amount, you are going to be held. you're in contempt of court. that matter having been cleared i think now, fredricka, the issue becomes what is going to be i think the fight for his life. the case that he's facing now concerning the ten counts of aggravated sexual assault differs widely from the case, of course, he was dealing with back in 2002 that went to trial in 2008. we have here multiple accusers, three of them underage, multiple accounts. we have issues concerning the new tone and environment concerning me t

legal analyst joey jackson is here. is that the step, joey? >> good morning to you.ions scandals were in massive disproportion. i'm one that has a soft spot for the students involved here. perhaps some of the students knew, perhaps many didn't, i think it's demeaning, demoralizing enough. but now to start revoblging diplomas from them, kicking them out of classes. we're talking 18, 19, 20, 21-year-old young men and women. i think, certainly, as it relates to them, if they earned their education once they were in the school, then i think that education needs to be respected. i think many will disagree. that's their prerogative. when we start revoking things from students that have their lives ahead of them. we need to deal with the root core of the problem, if you get to that, the parents, administrators, coaches, everyone involved, i think we do a great service to moving this forward. >> there's a mom in california who wanted do what you just talked about, jennifer coy, she's a former oakland teacher and a single mom. she's suing lori loughlin and those named in the

joey jackson is here with us now.d him say i promise you it's all going to get straightened it out. if you're his lawyer how are you straightening it out? >> a lot of work to do. good morning to you. that work involves four different victims, allegedly victims at this point and serious allegations concerning him. i think the first thing you need to do is get what we lawyers call discovery and that is to see exactly what the prosecution has, parse through that information and determine whether there are inconsistencies and discrepancies and what motivations there are. and, you know, i think that is the way to go at least initially. then they are going to have a lot of work to do in terms of prepping r. kelly should he testify. an open question and the performance he gave to gayle king needs to be revisited and he needs his demeanor in check too so they will work on that as well. >> i want to ask you about about that. i feel we saw two different r. kelly the last several days. in the cbs interview was very angry and yes

. >>> cnn legal analyst joey jackson joining us and daniel lipmann, co-author of "playbook."et's go to the mention of the tweet from the president, up until that letter from attorney general barr that said he would not give opportunity to the white house, the president released report. then we have a tweet where the president saying maybe we should just take the report and say no, we've got a country to run. is this just the president groaning, for the change of support for the release? >> i don't think he's going to block the release because barr, his own attorney general has said this is coming down the pike in a few weeks. i think the real question is whether justice department lawyers and officials are going to make redactions over and beyond what should be excised to protect real secrets. are they going to try to protect the president by taking out stuff that the white house would have considered privilege? and, you know, our politically appointed officials, what role do they have in the process? is it just career officials doing this, or is barr's top deputies going to

joey jackson is a criminal attorney, berrit berger. basically you have, to you first, basically you have the, you know, the police superintendent, the mayor and then you have the, you know, prosecutors on the other side. how are they not on the same page on this? >> i don't know. this is a very surprising way for this to play out. don't get me wrong, in my time as a prosecutor there were many instances where the fbi agents and i saw a case differently. i thought we should resolve it by a plea, they thought it was too lenient. we also had disagreements about the resolution of a case. what we never did though was air those disagreements in such a public fashion or really come out this strongly against each other. it is very surprising to me that there's not some sort of a unified front here. >> let me read this. this is from chicago sun times, joey. the first assistant state's attorney said the decision -- this is a quote, the decision to drop the charges should not be interpreted that smollett did not do what police and prosecutors have

joey jackson, cnn legal analyst, is with us now. this stood on to me when i read this.e police saying we are going to release this video and that prompted his statement. that seems unusual. i don't remember police -- i don't want to say threatening but saying this is what we are going to do, we are going to release it? >> absolutely. first of all, fragreat to see y both in person. on the issue, police are on the front lines of this. they have done a thorough investigation from all accounts here because the larger issue, remember, is human trafficking. right? the human trafficking element is a major issue in this country, certainly needs to eradicated. from that investigation apparently spawned what they are with robert kraft and if those reports are true, it would be a horrific misstep on the part of the police department. you cannot be releasing or threatening to release information about a defendant for the simple reason everyone has a right to a fair trial. can you imagine the prejudice result to him necin the event t video came public? but to do it saying i'm threat

we're joined by joey jackson, a criminal defense attorney and a cnn legal analysts. let's take baby steps here, joey. first of all, there is such a thing as alternative disposition, alternative prosecution. prosecutors can decide to do something other than take a case to court, it happened more than 5,000 times in illinois. but how does it normally happen? >> so, look, here's the point. let's talk about what happened here. ha happened here is that he did it and to your point the prosecution felt, well, they believe he did it. >> they believe he did it. >> they said that they stand by the grand jury. they believe strongly that they could have prevailed. they believe in support, the chicago police department's investigation, but they've opted instead of moving forward to offer an alternative disposition to your point. an alternative disposition is, look, let us allow reasonable niends prevail. we believe in the interest of justice pursuing 16 counts in a felony indictment is not appropriate. how it normally works, you go in usually prior to indictment and say, don't ind

joey jackson is here as well as midwin charles.th of you. >> good evening. >> it's interesting. we've been on panels with him. he's appeared on the network. and you sat -- and now we see this happening today. he was representing stormy daniels. he mulled a 2020. tonight he said "throughout my career i've fought for the little guy" and that he's going to be fully exonerated. >> that's going on -- >> what do you think? >> sad state of affairs without question. so i think differently, depending upon the case that we're talking about. as it relates to california i think he's in a world of hurt. why? because either you have taxes that were properly filed with the government or you don't. it's easy to prove. the allegation in terms him filing false taxes you go to the irs you see if there were taxes filed. if there were not and he presented them to the bank that becomes problematic. in the event you that inflate your income to get loans that becomes problematic. >> it sounds very familiar, by the way. >> it really does. >> inflating your

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got joey jackson here with some answers.m in that position? >> i think ultimately, chris, it is his call. it's the client's call. >> sure. >> it's done with the advice and counsel, obviously, of your attorney. and i have to tell you this, which would be surprising, is i would have put him in that position. i think that he's -- >> if you knew he was going to do that? >> no. no. that's a separate issue. i think you have to stay on message. what i don't like are a couple of things. obviously the demeanor and exho comportment that's shown there there is not appropriate. disavow yourself of others. what do i mean? i think there's a distinction between being a bad guy who has treated women inappropriately, not right, perhaps too controlling. perhaps a jerk. and being a criminal. and i think if you're going to put your client out there to level the playing field, to sort of condition the jury pool, he'll be facing a jury soon, let's be clear, and so you have to fight back from a public r s relations perspective. i could see the roo

let's bring in joey jackson. you will sometimes see the feds getting involved in a crime where there aren't more serious crimes. you get into civil rights violators or something. how unusual would it be to get involved in a case like this. >> everything is unusual. from a federal involvement perspective, the federal government has a role as it relates. you heard ryan young speaking about a letter jussie smollett has alleged to have sent to himself. you put it in the stream of interstate commerce, into the mail. that's where the federal case is. if anybody gets it, the media may not. the federal government will in their investigation. that's where the role is. in terms of investigating the propriety of the local charges, the state, look. the federal government does what it does. let's talk about, if we could, what the state did. people are upset because of the lack of transparency. if you want to cut a deal with jussie smollett because he's a first time offender, a person who's done things for the community, you t

i want to bring in cnn legal analyst joey jackson. okay, joey. of all, the repayment to the city of chicago is requesting, is that just a pr thing? do they have any power to demand payment? >> no, they don't. so here's what happens, and, you know, this case is just on so many levels problematic and here's why. i think initially, anderson, before getting to that, they should have called it what it was. this was a plea agreement and they didn't call it a plea agreement. they said we're just dismissing the case, they're not transparent about it. let's be also clear they have the discretion, that is the prosecutor, to do what they think is appropriate. >> if it's a plea agreement, what is the plea? >> so the plea agreement, what they did as you recall, the initial statement is you're going to forfeit your bail of the $10,000. in addition to that, we evaluated what you've done for the community then we found out he did community service. now, as part of a plea agreement customarily, what a district attorney can do, county attorney in this instance, is

i want to bring in cnn legal analyst joey jackson. y, first of all, the repayment the city of chicago is requesting, is that a pr thing? do they have any power to demand repayment? >> no. here's what's happening. this case is on so many levels problematic. i think before getting to that they should have called it what it was. it was a plea agreement. they said we're dismissing the case. they were not transparent about it. they also have the discretion as the prosecutor to do what they think is appropriate. >> if it's a plea agreement, what was the plea? >> what they did, as you recall, the initial statement is you're going to forfeit your bail. of the $10,000, it was hundred 100,000, you paid $10,000. in addition to that we evaluated what you have done for the community. then they found out he did community service. the county attorney in this incident can require restitution. that gets to the court of restitution. can the police require him to pay it back? if that's a requirement, the county attorney could have conditioned it on a ple

legal analyst joey jackson is a defense attorney, sabrina cho is a report for "the yale daily news." anchor for "people tv." so joey, obviously i keep thinking -- first of all, i keep thinking about the good who get into college fair and square or didn't get in because the kids bumped them out. what are the legal ramifications for the parents? >> before my legal hat, my parent hat. went through the whole process. obviously my son now is at unc, chapel hill, your al ma mater. great school. from a parent's perspective, what you go through to get your kids into college, how you treat your kids to get them into college. it starts early on. then in middle school and developing them, encouraging them not only academically to hold it down, but to do things, music, athletics, to show the schools in the future -- >> a well-rounded kid. >> absolutely. that you have cultural values and experiences. in high school it gets worse. parents berating your kids, and telling -- >> you're giving me flashbacks. >> exactly. you got to take the a.c.t. you got to take the s.a.t. you have to work hard. practi

. >> joey jackson, so good to get your perspective. >>> r&b singer r.lly is expected post bond and released from jail. he was arrested wednesday after failing this ex-wife $161,000 in child support. he was out on bail on another case. last month, a jury indicted him on ten counts of aggravated sexual abuse. kelly was in a cbs special that aired last night. >> have you done anything wrong? >> lots of things wrong when it comes to women, but i apologized. but i apologized in those relationships, at the time i was in the relationships. >> have you broken any laws when it comes to women? >> absolutely not. >> have you ever had sex with anyone under the age of 17? >> no. >> never? >> no. >> they say you like very much to be in control, if you're not in control it becomes very bad for a woman in a relationship? >> you say me? >> yeah. >> no, no, no. the thing is i'm not a controlling person it's just i am in control of my household. like say if you live with me, i consider myself the king of the castle and you're the queen of the castle. >> if convicted kelly

we spoke to cnn analyst joey jackson about this case. >> reporter: what they did is they took out every statement that mr. smollett made and they made it into a crime. did they need 16 counts? i don't think so. i think mark certainly has a point as it relates to prosecutors being overzealous here. at the end of the day it matters little. the fact is you only need one count for conviction. >> now, r&b singer r. kelly set to be released from bail wants his bail processed according to his publicist. kelly was arrested thursday after failing to pay his ex-wife $161,000 in child support. kelly was out on jail on another case on this issue. last month a grand jury indicted him on tents counts of aggravated sexual criminal abuse, includes acts with children between 13 and 17. he maintains his innocence in a "cbs news" special. it aired last night. take a look at this. >> have you done things done? >> lots of things done when it comes to woman. i apologized in those relationships at the time i was in the relationships. >> have you broken any laws when it comes to women? >> absolutely not. >> ha

last hour i talked to cnn analyst joey jackson about this. >> i think the first thing you need to do is get what we lawyers call discovery and that is to see exactly what the prosecution has, parse through that information and determine whether there are inconsistencies and discrepancies and what motivations there are. and, you know, i think that is the way to go at least initially. then they are going to have a lot of work to do in terms of prepping r. kelly should he testify. that is an open question and doesn't need to be answered right away. the performance he gave to gayle king needs to be revisited and he needs his demeanor in check too so they will work on that as well. >> i want to ask you about that. i feel we saw two different r. kelly the last several days. who we saw in the cbs interview who was very angry and who we saw yesterday, who was very measured. what do you make of that? >> you know, i think in terms of the gayle king interview -- i think people can get and understand that a person who is undergoing this type of stress, frustration, et cetera, you know, would be

joey jackson joins you. he sat down with the interview with cbs.e sat for an interview. he wanted to sit for it. he's not hiding. >> reporter: do you think it helped his case. >> it doesn't help or hurt his case. we are going to try this case in a courtroom, on the rules of evidence, based on what they're going to present. we're not doing interviews to taint the jury pool, to not taint the jury, to help the case, to not help the case. >> joey, do you think his attorney was effective there? >> no, everybody does things differently, to be clear. but you can't yell at people. you have to state a your case in a way that was more gentle. that interview obviously was designed to help. i would have done the same thing. the problem was that i don't know that he adequately prepped, or if he was, he may have veered off-course. you need to give an interview, because you want to condition the jury pool. i believe that jury pool is poisoned, in large measure, about the negative things that have been said, based upon the documentary and these ten counts he's fac

new york times" op-ed columnist charles blow and cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson for a supporting actor award last night at the naacp image awards. he didn't win, but here is what his fellow actor, the host of the show, told "variety." "the system isn't always fair especially for people of color." do you agree? >> i don't know if the system is working for him or not. i have to say, to begin, i think this is a nothing story. >> why is it a nothing story? >> the underlying alleged crime is a lie. we've been talking for weeks about a man who told a lie, right? there's no one hurt in it. the injury is to his own career, his own reputation. >> but what about all the resources police spent investigating his lie? >> and if he did it, he should pay that back. before dropping those charges, if they believe that he did it, they should have worked out a deal where he paid that money back. >> what about other people who maybe are victims of hate crimes? if he lied about this, what about their -- >> i don't believe that, not one bit. i don't believe that, not one bit. the peop

. >> joey jackson, appreciate it. charles as well.ave seen this on the broadcast earlier this week. drew griffin trying to get any kind of an answer from the man president trump just nominated to be the next interior secretary trying to get a response ability allegations he's serving his former clients since being in office. just ahead, i'll talk to him about an important update. booking a flight at the last minute doesn't have to be expensive. just go to priceline. it's the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40%. just tap and go... for the best savings on flights, go to priceline. >> already been doing the bidding of the company he represents. his office denies the claim. drew tried to get answers out of bernhardt in what was billed as a news conference in atlanta. >> can we have a few minutes of your time? we thought we would get a few questions to ask you. we're doing a story. >> go ahead and reach out. >> we did and the fact that more than a dozen of your former clients have been getting fav

let's discuss now with joey jackson, mid wywin charles, and charles ramsey.police chief in a couple of different places. so you say that what occurred today with jussie smollett is virtually unprecedented. what happened? >> well, what happened was is that you had literally the police chief and you had the mayor completely railing against what occurred. now, it's not unusual for there to be a disagreement between what ultimately happens or how there's a disposition. this was beyond a disagreement. and what the feeling was from the police's perspective was that the community was done a disservice. and here's what my thing is at the end of the day. if you want to call this an alternative prosecution, then call it that. the prosecution felt that this was a just and proper disposition. and perhaps it was. i think they were running too hard against him. you know, should he swallow a felony, as an african-american, who's starting out, doing great work for the community, who has a long background and a long history of being liked and well respected. but if that's goi

jussie smollett to come out along with his attorneys, i want to bring back in brian stelter and joey jacksonere is something important that we know and there is a whole lot that we don't know, as we're very cautious in this moment, right? we know the prosecutors have dropped the charges after reviewing evidence, after a review of the evidence. as you were making the point, joey, and it was important, that doesn't necessarily mean that there has been -- we don't know if there's been a determination that jussie smollett is blameless. >> correct. exactly right. that's right. so that's the issue. what struck me again is you're talking about they're considering his voluntary service to the community and that he agrees to forfeit bond. when someone is blameless, that doesn't happen. the charges are simply dismissed and sealed, you get your bond back -- >> why would you be expected to pay anything? >> they don't care what you did for the community, what convictions you had, they're basing it on this case. complete speculation, but based upon what they're saying, maybe there was a tremendous overrea

>> let me ask jeffrey toobin and joey jackson to weigh in on that as well. >> i agree with laura thata central mystery of what we know about the mueller report and mueller's investigation about why he didn't press for an interview with the president and whether barr himself took it upon himself to clear the president on the issue of obstruction of justice or whether mueller asked barr to issue a final opinion on that subject. that's why making final judgments on the basis of the barletter, which was informative but raised a tremendous number of questions is an unwise thing to do. >> joey, go ahead. it always is more beneficial when you have the person before you. to assess what they are doing, their movements, the cold transcript that is the written word it just doesn't do it justice. it's the president of the united states. so perhaps either, a, he doesn't want to engage in a legal battle, which i think mueller would put no stone unturned to move forward, or b, he was satisfied based on corroboration with other information provided and said let's loef it at that and move forward and

. >> joey jackson, you have beend you think? >> here is the with why the underlying reports are relevant. we can look at similar information and we could draw different conclusions. i don't know by the fact that the conclusions will be releases that that's the be all and end all. perhaps you look at the facts and documents and you draw alternate conclusions to what the special counsel has. i think as this moves forward, that's going to be relevant. the report in and of itself is not going to satisfy the appetite, i don't believe, of those who are evaluating it. i think congress has made clear and certainly as to your interview with adam schiff that there's more here. let's remember we're talking about this historic day, of course, but there are other things. when you lock at tok at the isso indictment, the president can't be indicted. does it address the issue of who we are looking to see is the king pin, so to speak. does that satisfy us that the president was not involved in the event there was information here against the pre